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25 YEARS --- 1999 - 2024
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Headline News   ..............  * * *   STOP PRESS -----   LAKE NEUCHÂTEL    "PS Neuchâtel "  will NOT operate her advertised late afternoon sailing 217 today (Sunday) - do YOU know why ? ....................... LAKE ZURICH    "PS Stadt Rapperswil "  is planned to operate the timetabled evening "Sunset Cruise" from Zurich to Rapperswil tonight (Sunday) ....................... LAKE GARDA    "MPV Italia "  has eventually entered service based at Riva and is now operating basically similar sailings to 2023 ....................... LAKE THUN - commencement of paddle steamer sailings on the lake this year has been delayed until the "End of June" due to the discovery of a cracked piston on PS Blümlisalp as part of her extended winter overhaul ....................... LAKE NEUCHÂTEL    ALL sailings to Yverdon-les-Bains including the visits planned for PS Neuchâtel are SUSPENDED until further notice - pending work to the pier ....................... LAKE KONSTANZ    "PS Hohentwiel "  is planned to operate an evening Dinner and Theatre Cruise from Rorschach to Bregenz on Sunday (4th August) ....................... see below, next page, also fleet, news and individual timetable pages for further details

Thank you to everyone who has sent photos these last few weeks
Due to family commitments,  I have not had the time to upload thm all
(I am working backwards through a 'mountain' of emails
which gets worse with so many "breakdowns" taking priority !!!!)
Saturday 15th June 2024

PS Neuchâtel   (Lake Neuchâtel)


                                                                                                                  picture:  Neuchâtel webcam


The paddle steamer returns to service after repairs and is seen leaving Neuchâtel
on her first sailing 311 across the lake to Cudrefin

Tuesday 11th June 2024

MPV Italia   (Lake Garda)


                                                                                                                    picture:   Limone webcam


The motor paddle vessel returns to service late than usual and operates her first
sailing 73 of 2024 from Riva to Malcesine and is seen being dearting Limone

Monday 10th June 2024

PSs Montreux and Savoie   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                       photo:  Robert Monch


PS Montreux had a day off service for minor repairs and unusually
spent it moored at Jardin-Anglais pier

This gave a rare opportunity for her and PS Savoie to be seen together

Saturday 25th May 2024

PS Lötschberg   (Lake Brienz)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Leila Blythe


The paddle steamer operates a special cruise in connection with the
"Friends" AGM and is seen being accompanied by the small pritately owned SS Valhalla

Friday 7th June 2024

PS Hohentwiel   (Lake Konstanz)


                                                                                                                    photo:   François Rentsch.


The paddle steamer operated a special cruise in connection with the
"Friends" AGM and is seen standing at Rorschach

Friday 7th June 2024

PS Unterwalden   (Lake Luzern)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Daniel Eichenberger


The paddle steamer arrives back at Luzern after completing the return evening
"sunset cruise" sailing 36 from Beckenried

Do YOU know why sister PS Uri did not operaste as advertised&nnsp;?

Monday 20th May 2024

PS La Suisse  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Paul Scheuchzer


The paddle steamer departs Montreux on the final sailing 205 of the day
back to Lausanne

Saturday 1st June 2024

PS Concordia   (Lake Como)


click on photo to enlarge                                                                                              photos:   Carlo Sottocasa


The paddle steamer arrives at Como from the dock before setting off
for Menaggio on her outward sailing 10


Friday 24th May 2024

PS Neuchâtel   (Lake Neuchâtel)


click on either "screen shot" to enlarge                                                                               pictures:  Neuchâtel webcam


The paddle steamer returns to Neuchâtel harbour at the end of her "lunch cruise"
sailing 313 from Cudrefin - look ckosely for her funnel in the harbour !
(Sorry for the poor quality views,   but if YOU can supply something better I will happily replace them)


She is now in dock awaiting repairs to be undertaken to the bearing of her HP crank
which it is hoped will be completed by mid-June


Whit Monday - 20th May 2024

PS Stadt Rapperswil  (Lake Zurich)


                                                                                                                    photo   André Hofer


The paddle steamer heads towards the bridge over the channel which links the main lake
with the Obersee whilst unusually operating sailing 301 from Rapperswil to Schmerikon

Whit Monday 20th May 2024

PS Stadt Rapperswil   (Lake Zurich)


                                                                                                                    picture:   Zurich Webcam


                                                                                                      photo:  Ernst Mischler


                                                                                                                    picture:   Zurich Webcam


The top picture shows thepaddle steamer standing at Zurich prior to operating a
rare special sailing all the way to Schmerikon at the far end of the Obersee

- please note there were differences between the official "publicity" and "ship rosters".....
.....but as can be seen from the third picture above the paddle steamer DID return
to Zurich despite that sailing not being shown on the daily roster !

The main
(middle) photo shows the well loaded paddle steamer approaching Lachen
in glorious sunshine on her outward sailing 301 from Rapperswil to Schmerikon
at the end of the Obersee

Did YOU see or travel on this sailing ? - if so can you please supply any further
information about what actually happened on the day and ideally please send a
photo to include on this website - thank you !
 (credit will of course be given)

Thursday 14th May 2024

PS Uri and PS Unterwalden   (Lake Luzern)



                                                                                                                    photos:   Daniel Eichenberger


PS Uri departs Treib on the return leg sailing 24 of her Luzern to Flüelen round trip

Unusually sister PS Unterwalden passes her on the afternoon sailing 21
whilst covering for the regular motor vessel

Saturday - 11th May 2024

PS Montreux   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                      photo:  Ernst Mischler


The paddle steamer departs Coppet on her return afternoon sailing 105
from Lausanne to Geneva

Ascension Thursday - 9th May 2024

PS Montreux   (Lake Geneva)

Did YOU found all four paddle steamers
in the second photo  ?  If not check the answers below..........



click on photo to enlarge                                                       photos:  Robert Monch


The paddle steamer entered service earlier than originally planned and initially
is overing for the damaged PS Simplon as she sets off for Lausanne
on her first sailing 102 of 2024

..........the second photo shows the PS Montreux (1) over the bowsc of MPV Helvétie (2)

(easily recognisable by the unique scroll on her bow),  then PS Savoie (3) is wailing to
form her lunchtime cruise sailing 304 partially "hiding" behind the stern flag
and finally MPV Genève (4) is moored on the far shore "over the bows"

Ascension Thursday 9th to Sunday 26th May 2024

PS Neuchâtel   (Lake Neuchâtel)


                                                                                                      picture:  Neuchâtel webcam


The paddle steamer entered public service on Ascension Thursday
but owing to an engine problem,  the NLM have amended the paddle steamer
sailings to operate to her basic
Saturday timetable
 (Cudrefin ferry)
on Wednesdays to Sundays until 26th May (inclusive)


Tuesday - 14th May 2024

PS Montreuc   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                    photos:   Alain Vuistiner


During the layover at Yvoire on the afternoon cruise from Geneva
an engineer attends to a paddle wheel on the paddle steamer

Sunday - 12th May 2024

PS Savoie   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                      photo:  Robert Monch


The paddle steamer departs Copper on the last return sailing 309 of the day
back to Geneva


Ascension Thursday - 9th May 2024

PS Montreux  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


The paddle steamer calls at Rolle on her return afternoon sailing 105
from Lausanne to Geneva whilst covering for the damaged PS Simplon

Friday - 10th May 2024

PS Lötschberg   (Lake Brienz)


                                                                                                  photos:   Alain Vuistiner


The paddle steamer approaches Interlsaken Ost stern first
at the end of her return morning sailing 64 from Brienz

Ascension Thursday - 9th May 2024

PS La Suisse  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photo:  Paul Scheuchzer

The paddle steamer whistles to signify her departure from Vevey on her final
sailing 205 of the day back from the Upper Lake to Lausanne

Ascension Thursday - 9th May 2024

PS Lötschberg   (Lake Brienz)


                                                                                                      photo:  Ernst Mischler


The paddle steamer approaches Giessbach on her outward afternoon
sailing 69 from Interlaken to Brienz on her first day in service diring 2024

Monday - 6th May 2024

PS Simplon   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                      photo:  Robert Monch


The paddle steamer eventually entered the floasting dock ready for the
detailed survey of the damage caused at Cully over the Easter weekend

Sunday - 5th May 2024

PS La Suisse   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                      pictures:  Vevey and Montreux webcams


The paddle steamer swings round off-Vevey having just left Marché pier at the
start of her return 'lunch cruise' sailing 803 back to Lausanne
and later departing Montreux for Lausanne on her final sailing 205
of the day after going anti-clockwise 'Round the Upper Lake'

Saturday - 4th May 2024

PS Neuchâtel   (Lake Neuchâtel)


                                                                                                                    picture:  Neuchâtel webcam


The paddle steamer has just left Neuchâtel harbour on her first pre-season
special sailing for the "Trivapor" AGM at Twann
(Lake Biel)

Saturday - 4th May 2024

PS Savoie   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photos:  Robert Monch


The paddle steamer is 'made fast' for the night at Geneva Jardin Anglais pier
after completing her return afternoon sailing 309 from Hermance

Wednesday - 1st May 2024

PS Stadt Rapperswil   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    picture:  Zurich webcam


The paddle steamer stands at Zurich prior to working her dirst public
sailing 101 of the seeason to Rapperswil

Tuesday - 30h April 2024

MPV Vevey   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


The motor paddle vessel approaches Montreux on her first sailing 901 of the day
from Le Bouveret to Lausanne

Friday - 26th April 2024

PS La Suisse   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


The paddle steamer approaches Vevey on her first delayed sailing 900 of the season
from Lausanne to Le Bouveret

In the background MPV Italie heads from Le Bouveret to Lausanne on sailing 901

Thursday - 25th April 2024

PS Savoie  (Lake Geneva)



                                                                                                                photos:   Alain Vuistiner


The paddle steamer approaches Coppet on her outward "Petit-Lac"
afternoon sailing 326 from Geneva
and later standing at Yvoire before return on sailing 327

Thursday - 25th April 2024

PS La Suisse   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


The paddle steamer undertook a further test sailing and this time it was successful
meaning she was eventually able to enter public service the folowing day

She is seen approaching Montreux pier

Wednesday 24th Aptil 2024

PS Lötschberg  (Lake Brienz)


                                                                                     picture:  Bönigen webcam --- thanks to Ernst Mischler


The paddle steamer sets off from Bönigen on her 2024 pre-season 'test' sailing

Tuesday - 23rd April 2024

MPV Italie  (Lake Geneva)



                                                                                                                photos:   Alain Vuistiner


With strong winds causing thre cncellation of calls at several piers around the lake
the faithful old motor paddle vessel kept going on her temporary
International cross-lake ferry runs

She is initially seen at Lausanne after arriving from Thonon-les-Bains
on her lunchtime sailing 1212 and later the view from on-board as she
heads back to the French Coast on sailing 1213

Sunday - 21st April 2024

PS Hohentwiel  (Lake Konstanz)




                                                                                                                photos:   Robert Horlacher


The paddle steamer visited Romanshorn for the HaafenFest
and operated three one hour cruises on both the Saturday and Sunday

Sunday - 21st April 2024

MPV Italie  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


Owing to the breakdown of PS La Suisse..........
..........the motor paddle vessel had to step in and cover the Upper Lake cruises

She is seen departing Montreux operating the morning 'clockwise' sailing 900

Sunday - 21st April 2024

PS Uri   (Lake Luzern)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Daniel Eichenberger


The Paddle Steamer joined her larger service but by the time she was approaching
Gersau on her first return sailing 18 from Flüelen it was snowing hard

Saturday - 20th April 2024

PS Savoie   (Lake Geneva)



                                                                                                                    photos:  Robert Monch


The paddle steamer sets off from Geneva Jardin Anglais pier on her afternoon
'Petit Lac' sailing 308 to Hermance

and later looking forward from behind the port paddle box

Saturday - 20th April 2024

PS Stadt Luzern   (Lake Luzern)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Daniel Eichenberger


The Paddle Steamer approaches Beckenried on her return sailing 24 from Flüelen

Saturday - 20th April 2024

PS Stadt Luzern   (Lake Luzern)


                                                                                                                    picture:  Luzern webcam


The Paddle Steamer stands at No 1 pier at Luzern whilst waiting to operate her
first sailing 13 of the season to Flüelen

Wednesday - 17th April 2024

PS Savoie and MPV Helvétie   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                photo: Jean Vernet


The "new look" at Geneva

PS Savoie
(left) raises steam prior to taking over the main Geneva roster
from the weekend - she is joined by MPV Helvétie
(right) who had just
been towed by mv Léman to spend the summer
moored at Geneva Vieux Pâquis pier

Sunday - 14th April 2024

PS Savoie   (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Daniel Eichenberger


The Paddle Steamer arrive Lausanne with a good load at the end of her first return
Internastional ferry sailing 1108 of the day from Evian-les-Bains

Sunday - 14th April 2024

PS Savoie  (Lake Geneva)



                                                                                                                    photos   Alain Vuistiner


The paddle steamer arrives at Lausanne pier prior to her delayed start to her
2024 season - she is about to operate her first sailing 1107 to Evian-les-Bains
prior to taking a 'full-load' to the "Upper Lake" on her lunch cruise to Villeneuve

After that she relocates to Geneva to take-over the 'modified' main roster'
vice her damaged sister - PS Simplon

Saturday/Sundays - 6th and 7th/14th April 2024

PS Concordia  (Lake Como)

With half of the NLC fleet NOT yet available for service
- the paddle steamer was pressed into service last weekend and again this weekwnd

It appears she operated a "modified" version of her usual roster but after saililns 10-13 returns light to Bellagio to provide a relief "Express" journey back to Como about 1830

(any intermediate stops are currently unknown)
instead of a short working to Torno

Were YOU there and if so can you please advise what ever limited first-hand
information you may have to the webmaster to piece together the full story
by filling in any known entries on the attached draft timetable

Should you have any photos for either day as further evidence..........
..........they would be much appreciared !!!!!

Saturday - 13th April 2024

PS Simplon  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photo:  Paul Scheuchzer

The damaged paddle steamer stands on display at Ouchy Harbour during
the Works "Open Day"

She is planned to go onto the floating dock shortly in order that the
amount work required can be accrately assessed

Sunday - 7th April 2024

MPV Vevey  (Lake Geneva)


                                                                                                                    photo:  Paul Scheuchzer

The motor paddle vessel stands at Vevey pier on a sunny spring Sunday
prior to operating the weekly "Lunch Cruise"
sailing 534 clockwise 'Round the Upper Lake'

Sunday - 31st March 2024

PS Concordia  (Lake Como)


                                                                                                                    photo:   Daniel Eichenberger


The paddle steamer returns to Menaggio from her lunch break ready to operate
her rerurn sailing 13 back to Como on her first day of public sailings in 2024

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(further information - including the Italian lakes when available - will be added as and when advised to me !!)


    BEWARE.......... !

Despite some sailings being officially advertised/planned to be operated by paddle steamers throughout the year,  there are inevitably occasions when it has
already been planned they will be replaced by a motor vessel on specific dates
(eg for private charters or special events or
breakdowns)
or there is a breakdown, etc
Lake
Event  (if known)
Paddle steamer sailings expected to be replaced by a motor vessel or occasionally cancelled (in italics)
  Good Friday and Easter Monday 29th March and 1st Aptil 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Savoie
"unavailable"
0925 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1005 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
1100 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1145 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
1230 Lausanne to Villeneuve
1408 Villeneuve to Lausanne
  Easter Saturday 30th March 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Savoie
"unavailable"
0925 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1005 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
1100 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1145 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
sailings canncelled
1230 Lausanne to Villeneuve
1408 Villeneuve to Lausanne
  Sundays 31st March and 7th April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Savoie
"unavailable"
0925 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1005 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
1100 Lausanne to Evian-les-Bains
1145 Evian-les-Bains to Lausanne
1230 Lausanne to Villeneuve
1408 Villeneuve to Lausanne
  Saturday 20th April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown

also
PS La Suisse
breakdown

also
mv Henry-Dunant
extended winter overhaul
sailings cancelled
1045 Geneva to Lausanne
1455 Lausanne to Geneva
1055 Lausanne to Geneva
1445 Geneva to Lausanne
1820 Lausanne to Montreux
1932 Montreux to Lausanne
0900 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1115 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
1230 Lausanne to Vevey
1322 Vevey to Lausanne
1440 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1546 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
  Sunday 21st April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown
   also
PS La Suisse
breakdown
   also
mv Henry-Dunant
extended winter overhaul
sailings cancelled
1045 Geneva to Lausanne
1455 Lausanne to Geneva
1055 Lausanne to Geneva
1445 Geneva to Lausanne
1820 Lausanne to Montreux
1932 Montreux to Lausanne
  Monday 22nd April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown

also
PS La Suisse
breakdown

also
mv Henry-Dunant
extended winter overhaul
1515 Geneva to Bellevue
1540 Bellevue to Geneva
1620 Geneva to Bellevue
1645 Bellevue to Geneva
1725 Geneva to Bellevue
1750 Bellevue to Geneva
sailings cancelled
1235 Geneva to Hermance
1330 Hermance to Geneva
0900 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1115 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
1230 Lausanne to Vevey
1322 Vevey to Lausanne
1440 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1546 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
  Tuesday to Thursday 23rd to 25th April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown

also
PS La Suisse
breakdown
1515 Geneva to Bellevue
1540 Bellevue to Geneva
1620 Geneva to Bellevue
1645 Bellevue to Geneva
1725 Geneva to Bellevue
1750 Bellevue to Geneva
0900 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1115 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
1230 Lausanne to Vevey
1322 Vevey to Lausanne
1440 Lausanne to Le Bouveret
1546 Le Bouveret to Lausanne
sailings cancelled
1235 Geneva to Hermance
1330 Hermance to Geneva

  Friday 26th April 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown

also
mv Henry-Dunant
extended winter overhaul
1515 Geneva to Bellevue
1540 Bellevue to Geneva
1620 Geneva to Bellevue
1645 Bellevue to Geneva
1725 Geneva to Bellevue
1750 Bellevue to Geneva
sailings cancelled
1235 Geneva to Hermance
1330 Hermance to Geneva

  Saturdays 27th April and 4th May 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown
sailings cancelled
1045 Geneva to Lausanne
1455 Lausanne to Geneva
  Sundays 28th April and 5th May 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown
sailings cancelled
1045 Geneva to Lausanne
1455 Lausanne to Geneva
  Mondays to Thursday 29th April to 8th May 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown
1515 Geneva to Bellevue
1540 Bellevue to Geneva
1620 Geneva to Bellevue
1645 Bellevue to Geneva
1725 Geneva to Bellevue
1750 Bellevue to Geneva
sailings cancelled
1235 Geneva to Hermance
1330 Hermance to Geneva

  Thursdays and Friday 2nd, 3rd, 16th and 17th May 2024
Lake Zurich
PS Stadt Rapperswil
no obvious reason
1320 Zurich to Rapperswil
1540 Rapperswil to Zurich
  Friday 3rd May 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Simplon
breakdown

also
mv Henry-Dunant
extended winter overhaul
1515 Geneva to Bellevue
1540 Bellevue to Geneva
1620 Geneva to Bellevue
1645 Bellevue to Geneva
1725 Geneva to Bellevue
1750 Bellevue to Geneva
sailings cancelled
1235 Geneva to Hermance
1330 Hermance to Geneva

  Wednesdays to Sundays 9th to 26th May 2024 (inclusive)
Lake Neuchâtel
PS Neuchâtel
due to a shortage
of operational
motor vessels
The paddle steamer covers the Cudrefin 'ferry' runs
--- in consequence the advertised "Tourist" sailings
will NOT start until Wednesday 29th May
  Daily 18th May 2024 until further notice
Lake Thun
PS Blümlisalp
replacement of cracked piston
all paddle steamer sailings
  Whit Monday 20th May 2024
Lake Zurich
PS Stadt Zürich
late entering service
0920 Zurich to Rapperswil
1140 Rapperswil to Zurich
1520 Zurich to Rapperswil
1745 Rapperswil to Zurich
  Friday 24th May 2024
Lake Neuchâtel
PS Neuchâtel
prevention of
further damage
to her engine
1415 Neuchâtel to Portalban
1510 Portalban to Neuchâtel
1600 Neuchâtel to Cudrefin
1650 Cudrefin to Neuchâtel
  Saturday 25th May 2024
Lake Brienz
PS Lötschberg
"Friends" AGM charter
1207 Interlaken to Brienz
1340 Brienz to Interlaken
1507 Interlaken to Brienz
1640 Brienz to Interlaken
  Wednesdays to Sundays 25th May to 14th June 2024
Lake Neuchâtel
PS Neuchâtel
at dock for repairs
All sailings covered by a motor vessel
  Sunday 26th May 2024
Lake Geneva
all paddle steamers
Naval Parade
All tourist sailings either cancelled
or replaced by a motor vessel
  Sunday 26th May 2024
Lake Luzern
PS Stadt Luzern
charter
0912 Luzern to Flüelen
1200 Flüelen to Lazern
  Friday 7th June 2024
Lake Zurich
PS Stadt Rapperswil
charter
1320 Zurich to Rapperswil
1540 Rapperswil to Zurich
  Monday 10th June 2024
Lake Geneva
PS Montreux
pre-planned repairs
sailings cancelled
1045 Geneva to Lausanne
1455 Lausanne to Geneva
  Sunday 16th June 2024
Lake Neuchâtel
PS Neuchâtel
no "obvious" reason
1725 Neuchâtel to Portalban
1755 Portalban to Neuchâtel
  PROVISIONAL
  Monday to Sunday 22nd to 28th July 2024 (inclusive)
Lake Neuchâtel
PS Neuchâtel
reason not yet known
all paddle steamer sailings

Key - basic reason for changes
day to day operating
special sailing
charter sailing
occasionally
'open-to-the-public'
breakdown
re-build or test
weather and
coronavirus
precautions
replaced by a motor vessel
"italics" - sailing(s) CANCELLED

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