IGNORE Table "70" as it is now well out of date
(it shows the position immediately after the demise of GHA well over two and a half years ago)
Most critical - there are no longer any Friday journeys..........
..........also the detailed times of several Tuesday and
Saturday journeys have altered - a change of vehicle
is now necessary when continuing to/from Llandudno
The updated TIMES can be confirmed from the official TravelineCymru or Llew Jones websites
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UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!
Not only did these errors apply to their three 2017 editions and again to their two 2018 editions
- but the same 'out-of-date' timetable has yet again been included in their February 2019
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website
UPDATE
There have been numerous changes to many services in the area
Most important are the revised "12" and "13" times - some of which provide a
connection into and out of the Sherpa network via Llandudno or Llandudno
Junction (station)
If you have already saved a copy of ANY of their tables, make sure you have downloaded
the correct version - if in doubt DELETE it and start again
..........and confirm from the Arriva bus website
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DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT !
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alternatively try
No printed copies
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IMPORTANT
Their "Journey Planner" requires minimum of five minutes for a connection at any
location - this also applies when there is a 'through journey' - often the case at Beddgelert
where the Sherpa route number changes
- eg ["S4"-"S97"]
or ["S97"-"S4"]
A similar situation applies on the altertnative later evening
["5C"-"5"] journeys from
Caernarfon to Llandudno via Bangor
Unfotunately in these cases they automatically advise you to travel an earlier journey and
to hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!! (althouigh "some" - but not all - options have
since been manually updated)
This website is the only one which gives an appropriate note on the individual
timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
quicker
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"the" official public transport website
UPDATE
All of the Summer Sherpa timetables are at last on their
website..........
..........the additional Sunday "ghost" journeys have now been removed !!!
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PLEASE NOTE
There was a reduction in the level of "88" Monday to Friday connecting
journeys after this Friday (19th May) which has now been updated
UPDATE
Dilwyns have made major mid-season changes to the
times of some Sunday journeys from 14th July 2019
BEWARE - The last journeys have been ADVANCED to
1645 from Llanberis*
and 1820 from Caernarfon
* - there is a later Sunday "S2" journey from Llanberis
at 1920 but this is NOT shown on their Table "88"
Unfortunately these Sunday changes have not yet been updated
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They have corrected the weekday "X19" Timetable and "Journey Planner"
for the Llew Jones drastic reduction to just four trip each way per day..........
..........but it is understood there are some further changes from the end of July
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or the official
No printed copies
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SUMMER
Their website Timetables "Page" has at last been updated to show their revised summer 2019
Sherpa services together with their connecting "85" service from Bangor - after having been displaying
" Roedd gwall wrth prosesu eich cais/There was an error while processing your request "
since the start of November 2018 !!!!!
- see also this website for composite times and confirm from the
Gwynedd CC website
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phone:
01248 722 694
PLEASE NOTE
There have reduced the level of their "88" weekday journeys
from/to Llanberis to hourly all day - but BEWARE their website still shows the former additional
peak-hour journeys
- DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT !
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website
This company is now operating the whole of the Sherpa
network
following a slight easement of running times in the critical sections..........
summer weekend "S1"
all-year-round "S2"
all-year-round "S4"
summer weekend "S6"
and the all-year-round "S97"
They also operate also the......
weekday and Sunday "85" connecting journeys from Bangor
weekday "88" connecting journeys from Caernarfon
and the Sunday "2" connecting journeys from Barmouth
BEWARE........
Even now, their "S4" and "S97" timetable pages fail to show many
journeys on arrival at Beddgelert immediately
continue onto Porthmadog or Caernarfon respectivcely after changhing their route number
IGNORE the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner" advice to wait around in the cold for the
following journey - generated automatiocally when the standing time at Beddgelert is less than
5 minutes, even it is the same bus !!!!!
This website
unlike ANY official one is unique in that it gives a note
on the individual timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
earlier - so don't alight and let the bus go, only to find you should have stayed
on !!!!!
eg ["S4"-"S97"]
or ["S97"-"S4"]
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PLEASE NOTE
Some 'day-to-day' information can be found
here
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or the official
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BEWARE
The former Arriva Wales booklets for the North Wales and Cambrian Coasts have simply been reprinted
with a new cover
To find a "Transport for Wales" journey you must look for a train still showing AW (for Arriva Wales)
- surprisingly this is still the case with the new winter timnetables !!!
Most worrying summer dated services - which finished before TforW took over - are still shown !!!!
Alternatively use their own 'journey planner' to confirm times providing you already know
when and where you want to go !!!
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train website
All local train services throughout Wales are now operated
by the KeolisAmey of behalf of "Transport for Wales"
- this includes the connecting
Conwy Valley line and
the Cambrian Coast line
In addition, InterCity services from North Wales
to/from London continue to be operated by Virgin
UPDATE
At this stage there are no major changes to the times previously
operated by Arriva Wales
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or the official
printed copies of their Conwy Valley services
are usually available on the buses
(during the summer)
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WINTER
Their website has been updated to shown their greatly reduced
level of their weekday "X19" service along the east side of the Conwy Valleys
Their "subsidised" Sunday service remains unaltered
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website
This company operates the very
limited weekday "6B" service along the Ogwen Valley
also the connecting "X19" and "19" bus journeys along both sides the
Conwy Valley as well as the Sunday "1S" connecting service from Blaenau Ffestiniog and Caernarfon
IMPORTANT
Despite operating improved evening Conwy CC
subsidised services along the Conwy Valley, they have STILL not bothered to
correctly update their website to reflect the Sunday changes !!!!!
Use the Conwy CC website or Llew Jones own printed leaflet for confirmation
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PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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or the official
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printed copies sometimes
available on the bus immediately
after any change
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bus website
This company previously operated the Sunday "S97" Sherpas
but now only operate some connecting journeys in Snowdonia
You can check the
"real time" position of any Arriva connecting bus
here
- remember to "zoom in" to the North Wales area first !
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or the official
No printed copies
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website
This company operates connecting journeys only
They still INSIST on their only
mid-morning "35" journey to Dolgellau from Blaenau Ffestiniog departing at 1130
- EXACTLY the same time as the mid-morning Conwy
Valley Line train arrives !!!
On behalf of visitors to this website, your webmaster did ask them to consider
re-timing the bus slightly later, but a somewhat "unhelpful" reply from their
Bethan Jones completely avoided answering the point
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PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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or the official
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No printed copies
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website
although this company no longer operates Sunday connecting
timetabled services from Blaenau Ffestiniog and Caernarfon
- it still operates the weekday local service in Blaenau Ffestiniog
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DILWYNS
UNFORTUNATELY NO WEBSITE
phone:
01248 600 098
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UPDATE
They have made major mid-season changes to the
times of some journeys from 14th July 2019
BEWARE - The last journeys have been ADVANCED to
1645 from Llanberis*
and 1820 from Caernarfon
* - there is a later Sunday "S2" journey from Llanberis
at 1920 but this is NOT shown on their Table "88" |
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their former website is no longer
active |
although this company no longer operates connecting
timetabled services from Caernarfon
- it still operates private hire coaches and school buses in the area
PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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yet another official
website giving
incorrect information ! |
the links on this website are all out of date
in addition the "S6"
Sherpa no longer serves Bangor or Betws-y-Coed
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.....but do check ANY of the above official websites
have been fully updated,
as some are considerably old and (at least partially) out-of-date !!!!
Known errors in official publications are included above
(these 'warning' are there to try to help avoid you being "caught out")
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on 14th July 2019
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