Whilst this website is kept fully up-to-date with
all alterations advised to the webmaster
latest times should always be confirmed from official council sources, such as.......
(click on any logo to go to that website)
on the official
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IMPORTANT
Despite Arriva giving the required 56 days statutory notice to withdraw
their "88" weekday direct
service between Caernarfon and Llanberis WITH ONLY JUST THREE DAYS TO GO,
they have not yet bothered to update the Council website to reflect the latest
position..........
--- it STILL erroneously shows the current Arriva service carrying on ufn
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BEWARE
Unfotunately Gwynedd CC insist on specifying a 'zero' minute call at
Beddgelert when the Sherpa continues to Caernarfon, Rhyd Ddu (Sundays) or Porthmadog
after its route number changes en-route
As this is less than the 'automatic' minimum five minutes required by the Traveline Cymru
"Journey Planner," you end up being advised to travel on an earlier journey and to
hang around in the cold - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!!
some
cross-Beddgelert journeys were manually corrected earlier in the year to
show the "quicker" journeys......
but most have now reverted to the automatic "must have a minimum of 5 minutes
for a connection" |
This website is the only one which gives a "$" note on the
individual timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
earlier
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No printed copies
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website
IMPORTANT
The departure board at Porthmadog shows INCORRECT times for Sundays
- appears to be a "leave-in" from 2017
The LAST "S97-S4" SUNDAY journey from Porthmadog to Pen-y-Pass
(via Rhyd Ddu) now leaves EARLIER than shown at 1520
If you miss it and need to get back to Betws-y-Coed (or
beyond) there is just one later non-Sherpa connecting service at
1640 via Blanau
Ffestiniog
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UPDATES
Their "Sherpa Page" now links to individual "pdf" versions of the revised summer 2018
timetables "S1" "S2 "S4" "S6" and "S97"
Separate timetables can also be found from links on their
"Individual Timetables Page" including all the Sherpas
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PLEASE NOTE
The alternative weekday late-evening return services from Bangor to
Llandudno are completely revised.....
The evening departures from Bangor to Llandudno now depart
Bangor 1837, 1947, 2047, 2147 and 2247 - starting from Caernarfon at 1800, 1915, 2015, 2115
and 2215 respectively.....
....NOT at the Caernarfon times shown in the timetable on their website
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BEWARE
The revised April weekday "X19"
from Llandudno is now on their website
..........but they do not show the subsequent partial withdrawals to certain "X19" School Day journeys
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on the official
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IGNORE the reference to the
Park and Ride journeys only operating until October 2016 !!!
Extra weekend "S1" journeys ARE operating during Summer 2018 supplemented by
extras "shuttle" journeys from and back to the larger car park at Nant Peris - just £2
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DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT
AND END UP PAYING
FAR MORE FOR A TAXI !!! |
 printed
copies are available
website
- Their website has been completely re-vamped - the
bus information page has basically
become an "index
of links"..........
a) the 'plan your journey' box at the top simply
takes you to the TravelineCymru website - (see
below for
ERRORS on that website)
b) the 'Conwy public transport guide' link takes
you to a large 'pdf' file of the 'May 2018' printed bus timetables booklet
The printed version of the 2018 timetable booklet is
now available
c) the 'Snowdon Sherpa timetable and map' link
takes you to a 'pdf' file of the latest Sherpa map (only)
........use the timetable link at the top of the page for
the Sherpa timetables - scroll right down to the bottom
The "6B" timetable (along the
Ogwen Valley) is SILL not included
even though it re-started operating back in early-2015 - despite now
being included in the index to places served and on the maps !!!
(note - the latest times can be found here
or confirmed by ringing
Llew Jones on 01492 640 320 but note their website is still incorrrect) !!!
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on the official
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IGNORE Table "70" as it is now well out of date
(it shows the position immediately after the demise of GHA two years ago)
Most critical - there are no longer any Friday journeys..........
..........also the detailed times of several Tuesday and
Saturday journeys have altered - a change of vehicle
is now always necessary when continuing to/from Llandudno
The updated TIMES can be confirmed from the official TravelineCymru or Llew Jones websites
(but note the latter fails to show "Tuesdays only" on their version !)
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UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!
Not only did these errors apply to their three 2017 editions - but the same 'out-of-date' timetable has again been
included in their two 2018 versions |
printed copies are available
website
UPDATE
There have been numerous changes
to many services in the area
Most important are the revised
"12" times - some of which provide a connection into or
out of the Sherpa network via Llandudno
If you have already saved a copy of
ANY of their tables, make sure you
have downloaded the correct version
- if in doubt DELETE it and start again
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DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT !
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alternatively try the
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IMPORTANT
Despite there being changes to the connecting "88"
weekday direct service
between Caernarfon and Llanberis WITH LESS THAN A WEEK TO GO, they STILL erroneously
shows the current Arriva service carrying on ufn
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IMPORTANT
Their "Journey Planner" requires minimum of five minutes for a connection at any
location - this also applies when there is a 'through journey' - often the case at Beddgelert
where the Sherpa route number changes
Unfotunately in these cases they advise you to travel an earlier journey and
to hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!!
This website is the only one which gives a "$" note on the individual
timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
quicker
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No printed copies
"the" official public transport website
UPDATE
All of the Summer 2018 Sherpa timetables
are now on their website..........
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PLEASE NOTE
The "6B" northbound journey from Llanrwst along the Ogwen Valley
has been retimed EARLIER than shown
TravelineCymru and Llew Jones websites are both out of date - confirm latest times direct with Llew Jones
on 01492 640 320
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BEWARE
The revised April weekday "X19"
from Llandudno is now on their website
..........but they do not show the subsequent partial withdrawals to certain "X19" School Day journeys
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or the official
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IMPORTANT
Unfotunately Gwynfor have gone along with the Gwynedd CC specifying a 'zero' minute
call at Beddgelert when the Sherpa continues to Caernarfon, Rhyd Ddu (Sundays) or Porthmadog
after its route number changes en-route
As this is less than the 'automatic' minimum five minutes required by the Traveline Cymru
"Journey Planner," you end up being advised to travel on an earlier journey and to
hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!!
At the end of the day it is sole
responsibility of the operator
(whether it is subsidised or not)
to formally "register" any service he wishes to operate
Any problems "down-stream" it causes can only be solved by the operator
"re-registering" such services so they fully comply with natonally
accepted rules such as a minumum of 5 minutes for a conection to
properly appear on other official systems (eg -the TravelineCymru and other
Journey Planners)
or use the same route number for the entiire
journey - as was done by previous operators in this area |
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phone:
01248 722 694
No printed copies
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website
This company is now operating all the Sherpa
network - ie the summer "S1," all-year-round "S2,"
all-year-round "S4," summer weekend "S6" and the all-year-round "S97"......
...... also the Sunday "2" connecting journeys from Barmouth
BEWARE........
Their "S4" and "S97" timetable pages fail to show some journeys on
arrival at Beddgelert immediately
continue towards Porthmadog or Caernarfon respectivcely
IGNORE the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner" advice to wait around in the cold for the
following journey !!!!!
This website is the only one which gives a "$" note
on the individual timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
earlier - so don't alight and let the bus go, only to find you should have stayed
on !!!!!
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NOTE........
their revised connecting
Sunday "2" service from Barmouth
- which they took over last year - is still not shown despite them making
changes to that timetable since they took over !!!
....nor have they bothered to include several other weekday local bus services they now operate in the Caernarfon area |
PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can be found
here |
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or the official
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printed copies sometimes
available on the bus
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bus website
This company previously operated the Sunday "S97" Sherpas
but now only operate some connecting journeys in Snowdonia
PLEASE NOTE
They have given the required 56 days statutory notice to withdraw their
connecting "88"
weekday direct service between Caernarfon and Llanberis after the last
journey on Saturday 22nd September
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or the official
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printed copies are available
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train website
This company operates the connecting
Conwy Valley and Cambrian Coast lines
on both weekdays and Sundays
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or the official
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train website
This company has been awarded the contract
to operate the connecting Conwy Valley and
Cambrian Coast lines on both weekdays and Sundays
from Autumn 2018
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or the official
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printed copies of their Conwy Valley services are available on the buses
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website
This company operates the very
limited weekday "6B" service along the Ogwen Valley
also the connecting bus journeys along both sides the Conwy Valley
BEWARE - their
1510 "X19" journey from Betws-y-Coed leaves just before the arrival of the 'all-year-round'
afternoon "S2" Sherpa from Llanberis - YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF "FAILED"
INTEGRATERD TIMETABLE PLANNING !!!
IMPORTANT
Despite operating improved evening Conwy CC
subsidised services along the Conwy Valley, they have STILL not bothered to
correctly update their website to relect the Sunday changes !!!!!
Use the Conwy CC website or Llew Jones own printed leaflet for confirmation
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BEWARE
The "6B" northbound journey from Llanrwst along the Ogwen Valley
has been retimed LATER than shown
Llew Jones and TravelineCymru websites are out of date - confirm latest times direct with Llew Jones
on 01492 640 320
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PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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or the official
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No printed copies
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website
This company operates Sunday only connecting
journeys from Blaenau Ffestiniog - note their "1S" bus timetable is not yet on their website
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former website no longer
active |
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although this company no longer operates connecting
timetabled services from Caernarfon
- it still operates private hire coaches and school buses in the area
PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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yet another official
website giving
incorrect information ! |
the links on this website are all out of date
in addition the "S6"
Sherpa no longer serves Bangor or Betws-y-Coed
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IGNORE the official "Express Motors" website as it has
not been updated since April 2016 following a change of management at that time
However this company ceased operation of all its services (which included most of the Sherpa network) at the end of
December 2017
UNFORTUNATELY THEIR WEBSITE
IS STILL "LIVE" AND INCORRECTLY SHOWS THEIR FORMER SERVICES AS "OPERATING"
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!! |
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.....but do check ANY of the above officil websites have been fully updated, as some are considerably
old and (partially) out-of-day!!!!
Known errors in official publications are shown above
(to help avoid you being "caught out")
Please remember all official publications were only correct at the time
of going to press, so make sure
you also have any relevant amendment leaflets/notices
which may appear as the season progresses
[ If I am advised of any, this website WILL be updated accordingly ]
If you come across any changes not reflected here or you spot any error (or find any broken link)
please e-mail the webmaster
so it can be corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website - thank you !
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This website attempts to show what services are currently available
along with those planned for future periods as soon as the information has been announced
In particular it highlights known errors in official publications
in order the help avoid visitors being "caught out" !
It contains composite timetables of connecting services on a cross-Snowdonia route basis
including where a change of bus is necessary --- hopefully it will help you plan your days out
It also includes some suggested "trips round Snowdonia - without your car"
from locations within Snowdonia itself
as well as some of which commence from the North Wales Coast resorts by conecting bus or train
(thus enabling you to leave the car behind and avoid car parking fees !!!)
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