Whilst this website is kept fully up-to-date with
all alterations advised to the webmaster
latest times should always be confirmed from official council sources, such as.......
(click on any logo to go to that website)
on the official
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WINTER
Their website was at last been updated to show the revised winter "S2" "S4" and
"S97" Sherpa timetables which commenced on 5th November
There is the usual "halving" of the "S2" service for the winter but the timetables
for both the "S4" and "S97 routes are completely re-cast on both weekdays and Sundays
It also shows the drastically reduced level of service on the "X19" from Blaenau
Ffestiniog to Llandudno (via Betws-y-Coed for the Sherpa) with "just
one journey per day in
the Gwynedd CC area"
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BEWARE
Unfotunately Gwynedd CC still insist on specifying a 'zero'
minute call at Beddgelert when some Sherpa journeys continue to Caernarfon,
Pen-y-Pass or Porthmadog even when the route number changes en-route
Although following the November changes some journeys now stand five minutes at
Beddgelert so they are picked up by the 'automatic' minimum five minutes required by the Traveline
Cymru "Journey Planner," several others don't, so you end up being advised to travel on
an earlier journey and to hang around in the cold - sometimes for hours - for the next
one !!!
This website is the ONLY one which clearly
shows the throughout journey - look for a "double" route number (eg "S4-S97" or "S97-S4")
Don't be tempted to alight from any Sherpa at Beddgelert without first
confirming with the driver
I have received several reports of passengers alighting, then by the time they realised
it was the same bus they should have been on - it had gone !
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No printed copies
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website
IMPORTANT
The departure board at Porthmadog shows INCORRECT times for Sundays
- appears to be a "leave-in" from 2017
The LAST "S97-S4" SUNDAY journey from Porthmadog to Pen-y-Pass
(via Rhyd Ddu) was leaving EARLIER than shown at 1520.....
..... it has been advanced even earlier for the winter and now
departs at 1350
If you miss it and need to get back to Betws-y-Coed (or
beyond) there is just one later non-Sherpa connecting service at
1640 via Blaenau
Ffestiniog
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UPDATES
Their "Sherpa Page" now links to individual "pdf" versions of the summer 2018
timetables "S1" "S2 "S4" "S6" and "S97" which FINISH on Sunday 4th November with both the "S1"
and the "S6" being completely withdrawn for the winter
Separate timetables can also be found from links on their
"Individual Timetables Page" including all the Sherpas
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PLEASE NOTE
The alternative weekday late-evening return services from Bangor to
Llandudno are completely revised.....
The evening departures from Bangor to Llandudno now depart
Bangor 1837, 1947, 2047, 2147 and 2247 - starting from Caernarfon at 1800, 1915, 2015, 2115
and 2215 respectively.....
....NOT at the Caernarfon times shown in the timetable on their website
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on the official
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IGNORE the reference to the
Park and Ride journeys only operating until October 2016 !!!
Extra weekend "S1" journeys continued to operate during the summers of both 2017
and 2018 supplemented by
extras "shuttle" journeys from and back to the larger car park at Nant Peris - just £2
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DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT
AND END UP PAYING
FAR MORE FOR A TAXI !!! |
 printed
copies are available
website
- Their website has been completely re-vamped - the bus information page
has basically become an "index of links"..........
a) the 'plan your journey' box at the top simply
takes you to the TravelineCymru website - (see
below for any ERRORS on that website)
b) the 'Conwy public transport guide' link takes
you to a large 'pdf' file of the 'May 2018' printed bus timetables booklet
The printed version of the 2018 timetable booklet is
now available
c) the 'Snowdon Sherpa timetable and map'
link takes you to a 'pdf' file of the latest Sherpa map (only)
........use the timetable link at the top of the page for the Sherpa
timetables - scroll right down to the bottom
The "6B" timetable (along the
Ogwen Valley) is SILL not included
even though it re-started operating back in early-2015 - despite now
being included in the index to places served and on the maps !!!
(note - the latest times can be found here
or confirmed by ringing
Llew Jones on 01492 640 320 but note their website is still incorrrect) !!!
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on the official
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IGNORE Table "70" as it is now well out of date
(it shows the position immediately after the demise of GHA two years ago)
Most critical - there are no longer any Friday journeys..........
..........also the detailed times of several Tuesday and
Saturday journeys have altered - a change of vehicle
is now necessary when continuing to/from Llandudno
The updated TIMES can be confirmed from the official TravelineCymru or Llew Jones websites
(but note the latter fails to show "Tuesdays only" on their version !)
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UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!
Not only did these errors apply to their three 2017 editions - but the same 'out-of-date' timetable has again been
included in their two 2018 versions |
printed copies are available
website
UPDATE
There have been numerous changes
to many services in the area
Most important are the revised
"12" times - some of which provide a connection into or
out of the Sherpa network via Llandudno
If you have already saved a copy of
ANY of their tables, make sure you
have downloaded the correct version
- if in doubt DELETE it and start again
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DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT !
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alternatively try the
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IMPORTANT
Their website "timetables" and "Journey Planner" for the winter Sherpa
journeys has been updated for weekdays, with the exception of the revised Sunday
"S97" and "S4" journeys which are still missing
unfortunately they are erroneously "happily" still showing the full summer
"X19" journeys despite Llew Jones having drastically reducted them to just four trip
each way per day
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IMPORTANT
Their "Journey Planner" requires minimum of five minutes for a connection at any
location - this also applies when there is a 'through journey' - often the case at Beddgelert
where the Sherpa route number changes
- eg ["S4"-"S97"]
or ["S97"-"S4"]
A similar situation applies on the altertnative later evening
["5C"-"5"] journeys from
Caernarfon to Llandudno via Bangor
Unfotunately in these cases they advise you to travel an earlier journey and
to hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!!
This website is the only one which gives an appropriate note on the individual
timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
quicker
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No printed copies
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"the" official public transport website
UPDATE
All of the Winter 2018-2019 Sherpa weekday timetables
are now on their website..........
......... BUT FOR REASONS BETTER KNOWN TO THEM, THEY
ARE STILL NOT SHOWING THE NEW
"S4-S97" SUNDAY SERVICE
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PLEASE NOTE
The "6B" northbound journey from Llanrwst
along the Ogwen Valley has been retimed EARLIER than shown
TravelineCymru and Llew Jones websites are both out of date - confirm latest times direct with Llew Jones
on 01492 640 320
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BEWARE
Their "X19"
from Llandudno time table is now out of date following Llew Jones's REDUCTION in the
level of weekday service to just four trips each way a day
Unfortunately their "Journey Planner" is sill happily suggesting use the now
withdrawn journeys as a connection - but at least there is now reference to the changes
"hidden" on their disruptions page !!!
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or the official
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WINTER
Their website Tmetables Page index has been partially brought up to date for the winter,
but because they 'simply' link to the Gwynedd CC database - it faithfully shows the same
errors - except when the link is "broken" - as has been the case since the start of their
Sherpa winter timetables - so all you get is an "error" message !
It is not clear why there is NOT a link to the Sunday "S97" timetable
which changed last Sunday - 11th November
There IS a completely revised one bus combined "S4" and "S97" service which includes
providing Waunfawr with two Sunday northbound
and southbound journeys for the first time
in very many years - perhaps someone wants it to be "Wales Best Kept Secret" ?
In the interim, use this website as a guide - then confirm from the
Gwynedd CC website
.....rather than risk being "caught out" waiting for what will have become a changed
or withdrawn journey
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IMPORTANT
Unfotunately Gwynfor have gone along with the Gwynedd CC specifying some 'zero' minute
calls at Beddgelert when the Sherpa continues to Caernarfon, Pen-y-Pass or Porthmadog
after its route number sometimes changes en-route
As this is less than the 'automatic' minimum five minutes required by the Traveline Cymru
"Journey Planner," you end up being advised to travel on an earlier journey and to
hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!!
At the end of the day it is sole
responsibility of the operator
(whether it is subsidised or not)
to formally "register" any service they wish to operate
Any problems "down-stream" it causes can only be solved by the operator
"re-registering" such services so they fully comply
with natonally accepted guide lines such as a minumum of 5 minutes for a
conection to properly appear on other official systems (eg - the
TravelineCymru and other "Journey Planners")
Alternatively they could use the same route number
for the entiire journey
- as was done by previous operators in this area - "S96" was always 'traditional' for
through Caernarfon to Porthmadog via Beddgelert journeys
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phone:
01248 722 694
No printed copies
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website
This company is now operating all the Sherpa
network - ie the summer "S1," all-year-round "S2,"
all-year-round "S4," summer weekend "S6" and the all-year-round "S97"......
...... also the weekday "88" connecting journeys from Caernarfon
and the Sunday "2" connecting journeys from Barmouth
BEWARE........
Their "S4" and "S97" timetable pages fail to show some journeys on
arrival at Beddgelert immediately
continue towards Porthmadog or Caernarfon respectivcely
IGNORE the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner" advice to wait around in the cold for the
following journey when the standing time at Beddgelert is less than 5 minutes !!!!!
This website is the only one which gives a note
on the individual timetable pages to show when to remain on the Sherpa to get to your destination
earlier - so don't alight and let the bus go, only to find you should have stayed
on !!!!!
eg ["S4"-"S97"]
or ["S97"-"S4"]
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PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can be found
here
including "their" version of the new "88" weekday service - and
YES it really does show it takes "zero" minutes between Joe Brown and the Interchange
at Llanberis --- meaning if you work to their Facebook timetable in practice there
will always be early departures from Joe
Brown to Interchange unless they wait to "their" advertised time in which case the
arrival at the Interchange will be late !!!
Use their website version or the
Gwynedd CC website version INSTEAD for confirmation
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or the official
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BEWARE
The former Arriva Wales booklets for the North Wales and Cambrian Coasts have simply been reprinted
with a new cover
To find a "Transport for Wales" journey you must look for a train still showing AW (for Arriva Wales)
Most worrying summer dated services - which finished before TforW took over - are still shown !!!!
Alternatively use their own 'journey planner' to confirm times providing you already know
when and where you want to go !!!
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train website
Local train services throughout Wales are now operated
by the KeolisAmey of behalf of "Transport for Wales"
- this includes the connecting
Conwy Valley line and
the Cambrian Coast line
In addition, InterCity services from North Wales
to/from London continue to be operated by Virgin
UPDATE
At this stage there are no changes to the times previously
operated by Arriva Wales
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or the official
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WINTER
Their website has at last been updated to shown the greatly reduced
level of their weekday "X19" service along the east side of the Conwy Valleys
Their "subsidised" Sunday service remains unaltered
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printed copies of their Conwy Valley services
are usually available on the buses
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website
This company operates the very
limited weekday "6B" service along the Ogwen Valley
also the connecting "X19" and "19" bus journeys along both sides the
Conwy Valley
IMPORTANT
Despite operating improved evening Conwy CC
subsidised services along the Conwy Valley, they have STILL not bothered to
correctly update their website to reflect the Sunday changes !!!!!
Use the Conwy CC website or Llew Jones own printed leaflet for confirmation
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PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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or the official
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printed copies sometimes
available on the bus immediately
after any change
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bus website
This company previously operated the Sunday "S97" Sherpas
but now only operate some connecting journeys in Snowdonia
PLEASE NOTE
They have withdrawn their former connecting
"88"
weekday direct service between Caernarfon and Llanberis (after the last
journey on Saturday 22nd September)
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or the official
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No printed copies
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website
This company operates Sunday only connecting
journeys from Blaenau Ffestiniog - note their "1S" bus timetable is not yet on their website
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former website no longer
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although this company no longer operates connecting
timetabled services from Caernarfon
- it still operates private hire coaches and school buses in the area
PLEASE NOTE
Some day-to-day information can now also be found
here
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yet another official
website giving
incorrect information ! |
the links on this website are all out of date
in addition the "S6"
Sherpa no longer serves Bangor or Betws-y-Coed
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.....but do check ANY of the above official websites have been fully updated,
as some are considerably old and (partially) out-of-day!!!!
Known errors in official publications are shown above
(to help avoid you being "caught out")
Please remember all official publications were only correct at the time
of going to press, so make sure
you also have any relevant amendment leaflets/notices
which may appear as the season progresses
[ If I am advised of any, this website WILL be updated accordingly ]
If you come across any changes not reflected here or you spot any error (or find any broken link)
please e-mail the webmaster
so it can be corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website - thank you !
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This website attempts to show what services are currently available
along with those planned for future periods as soon as the information has been announced
In particular it highlights known errors in official publications
in order the help avoid visitors being "caught out" !
It contains composite timetables of connecting services on a cross-Snowdonia route basis
including where a change of bus is necessary --- hopefully it will help you plan your days out
It also includes some suggested "trips round Snowdonia - without your car"
from locations within Snowdonia itself
as well as some of which commence from the North Wales Coast resorts by conecting bus or train
(thus enabling you to leave the car behind and avoid car parking fees !!!)
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