from the North Wales coast to the mountains of Snowdonia

East side of the Conwy Valley

"X1" Express Motors bus  
regular daytime weekday journeys  
  via Glan Conwy and Meanan  
connecting into and out of the Sherpas  
until teatime  
no evening or Sunday service



"70" Llew Jones minibus  
Tuesday service also Saturday service  
connecting into and out of the Sherpas  







Snowdon Sherpa Bus
Timetables

Llandudno connections

unofficial website





Llandudno - X1,70,19,X19* train
  Llandudno Junction - X1,70,19,X19* train  
      |                        Conwy - 19
Black Cat - X1,70,X19*          |              
Maenan - X1,70,X19*            |             
      |                        Trefriw - 19
Llanrwst - X1,70,19,X19*,train
Betws-y-Coed - X1,70,19,X19* train

* - "X19" now runs Sundays only
West side of the Conwy Valley

  "19" Llew Jones minibus
  (weekdays and Sundays)
  from Llandudno to Betws-y-Coed
  via Conwy and Trefriw  


East side of the Conwy Valley

  "X19" Llew Jones Sunday
  minibus
(to Blaenau Ffestiniog)
  via Glan Conwy and Bodnant Gardens

All "conecting" bus services from Llandudno call at
Betws-y-Coed Railway Station (Platform 2)
- the start of the Sherpa services
sherpanetwork
  B E W A R E ....................... !!!
Car Parking in Snowdonia is very limited and can be expensive if a space can be found

The alternative is to leave your car behind and use the
Snowdon Sherpa Bus network

  IMPORTANT..............

BEWARE.....
The Llandudno winter weekday connection into
the first "S2" Sherpa now departs EARLIER

(until Saturday 1st April)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
REMEMBER - on some journeys, you MUST change to/from the "S2" Sherpa at Llanrwst on local School Days,
but Betws-y-Coed on all other dates  (see below for details)

The level of the "S2" Sherpa connections from Betws-y-Coed to Llanberis is reduced for the winter

There are some reductions to the level of the weekday
connecting Arriva service "12" from Rhyl and Colwyn Bay
resulting in some minor changes to some connecting times


This "unofficial" website attempts to show what is available
and to encourage its greater use includes some suggested
"trips round Snowdonia - without your car"


  llwbr CONWY route  
Snowdon Sherpa  (connections)
  llwbr CONWY route  

Llandudno -/- Llandudno Junction -\- Glan Conwy - Maenan -/- Llanrwst - Betws-y-Coed -\- (for Sherpa network)
Colwyn Bay ----/                                                                 \(19)                                                       /                                                                            \--- Corwen              
\--- Conwy ---------------- Trefriw ---/                

Mondays to Saturdays - 9th January to 13th April 2017
  Click here for Mondays to Saturdays from 15th April 2017 until further notice
Click here for Sundays from 8th January to 9th April 2017
   
S+LSH
LSch
HAF
   
M-F
Sat
             
Bedd
Llanb
 
 
Arriva
Wales
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Llew
Jones
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Express
Motors
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Wales
Arriva
Wales
Arriva
Arriva
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Express
Motors
Arriva
Express
Motors
Arriva
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Arriva
Wales
Llew
Jones
Arriva-
LlewJones
Express-
Arriva-
LlewJones
 
 
train
  12
27
19
19
S2 $
  12
13
X1
  12
13
19
  12
13
X1
19
train
train
13
  12
X1
  12
13
X1
13
X1
13
X1
X1
X1
train
19
S2-5C-5-19
85-5-19
 
    Prestatyn
#
   -
-
#
#
-
from 3 April
-
0807
-
-
0900
-
-
0951j 0950j
0940
-
-
-
1100
-
1140
-
1300
-
-
-
1552j
-
-
-
    Prestatyn
    Rhyl
#
0624
-
-
-
-
0700
-
No "X1"
journey during the winter
0800*
|
-
0900*
|
-
-
0957j 0956j
|
1000*
-
1100*
|
-
|
-
|
-
-
-
1558j
-
-
-
    Rhyl
    Colwyn Bay
#
0709
0724
-
-
-
0745
0802
0845
0901
-
0945
0954
-
-
1011j 1007j
1034
1045
-
1145
1154
-
1234
-
1354
-
-
-
1607j
-
-
-
    Colwyn Bay
Llandudno Palladium Corner 0708j 0740 $
|
07.45
07.45
-
   |
|
08.10
   |
|
09.10
   |
|
10.10
(0955)
10.08
10.22
|
   |
11.10
   |
|
12.10
|
13.00
|
14.00
14.55
15.55
16.20
17.15
(2020)
(2250)
Llandudno
      Craig-y-Don Clarance Road
-
-
|
|
|
-
0808
>>>|>>>
08.16
0908
>>>|>>>
09.16
1008
>>>|>>>
10.16
|
|
|
|
1108
11.16
1208
>>>|>>>
12.16
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
      Craig-y-Don
Llandudno Junction
07.26
-
0737
07.58
07.58
-
-
0818
08.28
-
0917
09.28
-
1010
10.28
(1011)
10.28
10.34
1050
-
11.28
-
1210
12.28
1250
13.28
1410
14.18
15.13
16.13
16.33
17.31
(2031)
(2301)
Llandudno Junction
Black Cat roundabout
|
-
|
|
|
-
-
-
08.31
-
09.31
-
10.31
|
|
|
-
11.31
-
12.31
-
13.31
-
14.21
15.16
16.16
|
|
|
|
Black Cat roundabout
    Conwy Railway Station
|
-
0743
08.02
08.02
-
-
-
|
-
|
-
|
1015
|
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
|
|
|
17.35
2035
2305
    Conwy
Llanrwst Watling Street
07.49
-
-
08.40
08.45
08.55 $
-
-
08.48
-
09.48
-
10.48
1055
10.50
10.56
-
11.48
-
12.48
-
13.38
-
14.38
15.33
16.33
16.55
18.20
2110
2335
Llanrwst Watling Street
Betws-y-Coed
07.55
-
-
08.50
-
09.05 $
-
-
09.00
-
10.00
-
11.00
1105
10.56
11.02
-
12.00
-
13.00
-
14.00
-
14.50
15.52
16.45
17.01
18.30
2120
23R45
Betws-y-Coed
j - change at 
 Llandudn Junction 
 $ - change at North West Gardens
       (NOT Palladium Corner)
\
   \
    Note - the first Llanberis Snowdon Sherpa departs Betws-y-Coed at 09.10 and the last at 17.40    
* - alternatively catch an earlier "12" (every 12 minutes) and stop off for a tea or coffee at Colwyn Bay or Llandudno    

R - continues to 
Betws-y-Coed 
on request 
to the driver 












 
  Sherpa departs Betws-y-Coed
  for Pen-y-Pass and Llanberis
09.10 $  11.10   13.10   15.48   17.40   -  
  Sherpa departs for Beddgelert
  via Nant Gwynant
  (Watkin Path)
0910 $ 
change at  
Pen-y-Pass  
1110  
change at  
Pen-y-Pass  
1310  
change at  
Pen-y-Pass  
1548  
change at  
Pen-y-Pass  
-  
  Sherpa departs for Bangor
  via Llyn Ogwen (Tryfan)
no Ogwen Valley "S6" Sherpa journeys in the winter   -  
  S+LSH - All Saturdays also Llanrwst School Holidays only       LSch - Llanrwst School Term only       M-F - Mondays to Fridays only       Sat - Saturdays only       HAF - Summer only  (re-commences Monday 3rd April 2017)    
$ - on local School Days only,  the 0910 "S2" Sherpa from Betws-y-Coed starts from Llanrwst Watling Street at 0855   (connecting passengers from Llandudno MUST change to the "S2" Sherpa at Llanrwst on these dates)    
Bedd - this evening service of the day forms part of a later service back from Beddgelert    
Llanb - this evening service of the day forms part of a later service back from Llanberis and Pen-y-Pass    
(after the last direct service via Pen-y-Pass)    
  # - there is NO train connection into the first Conwy Valley train of the day     (passengers can connect using the Arriva "12" bus to Llandudno (Law Courts stop) from Rhyl depart 0545 and Colwyn Bay depart 0630 to join the connecting train from Llandudno at 0708)    
Alternatively as there is no bus connection from Prestatyn to join the first Llew Jones "19" journey, it is possible to catch the 0710 train ex-Prestatyn and change to the bus at Llandudno Junction station    
latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Conwy CC website  and any subsequent amendments thereto
  llwbr CONWY route  
Snowdon Sherpa  (connections)
  llwbr CONWY route  

Betws-y-Coed (from Sherpa network) - Llanrwst -\- Maenan - Glan Conwy -/- Llandudno Junction - Llandudno
          \(19)                                     /

               \--- Trefriw ---------------- Conwy ---/

Mondays to Saturdays - 9th January to 13th April 2017
  Click here for Mondays to Saturdays from 15th April 2017 until further notice
Click here for Sundays from 8th January to 9th April 2017
               
S+LSH
LSch
 
HAF
   
HAF
 
 
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Arriva
Wales
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Llew
Jones
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Wales
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Express
Motors
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Express
Motors
Express
Motors
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Wales
Express
Motors
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Arriva
Wales
Llew
Jones
Arriva
 
X1
X1
X1
train
X1
X1
X1
19
X1
13
train
13
19
S2 $
19
13
X1
X1
13
12
19
train
X1
19
12B
35
train
19
12B
Sherpa arrive  0847ssh  1047  1247
 1517   
 15.17 $  1712  18R40 - 6B
(ex-Llyn Ogwen)
Betws-y-Coed
09.10
10.10
11.10
12.02
12.10
12.55
13.55
14.26
14.55
-
15.24
-
15.30
15.17 $
-
-
16.25
16.50
-
-
17.20
18.03
18.22
18.35
-
-
20.50
21.50
-
Llanrwst
09.22
10.22
11.22
12.08
12.22
13.07
14.07
14.45
15.07
-
15.30
-
15.45
15.38 $
15.45
-
16.37
17.02
-
-
17.30
18.09
18.32
18.45
-
-
20.56
22.00
-
    Conwy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
15.18
|
-
|
-
16.18
-
16.18
-
|
|
-
-
18.12
|
|
19.24
-
-
|
22.33
-
Black Cat roundabout
09.38
10.38
11.38
|
12.38
13.23
14.23
|
15.23
1543
|
-
|
-
|
-
17.00
17.19
-
-
|
|
18.49
|
-
-
|
|
-
Llandudno Junction
09.42
10.42
11.42
12.33
12.42
13.27
14.27
15.22
15.27
|
15.59
1617
16.22
-
16.22
1657
17.03
17.22
1737
-
18.16
18.34
18.52
19.28
-
-
21.21
22.37
-
      Craig-y-Don
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
17.13
17.32
>>|>>
1740
|
|
19.02
|
-
-
|
|
-
Llandudno
10.00
11.00
12.00
12.45
13.00
13.45
14.45
15.43
15.45
|
16.17
|
16.43
-
16.43
|
17.21
17.40
|
|
18.27
18.53
19.10
19.40
2011
-
21.44
22.50
2310
    Colwyn Bay
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1555
-
1635
-
-
-
1715
From
3 April
-
1755
1803
-
-
From
3 April
-
2036
-
-
-
2329
    Rhyl
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
|
-
|
-
-
-
|
-
|
1848
-
-
-
2115
2300
-
-
2359
    Prestatyn
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1649
-
1729
-
-
-
1809
-
-
1857
-
-
-
-
-
-
2315
-
-
-
ssh - Saturdays also School Holidays       LSch - Llanrwst School Days only       S+LSH - Saturdays also Llanrwst School Holidays       HAF - Summer only  (re-commences Monday 3rd April 2017)    
15.17 - Sherpa journey     $ - on Llanrwst School Days only is through "S2" Sherpa journey from Llanberis (depart 1430) to Llanrwst (arrive 1538) via Llanrwst School  (on non-School Days change at Betws-y-Coed to 1530 "19" journey)    
latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Conwy CC website  and any subsequent amendments thereto

  llwbr CONWY route  
Snowdon Sherpa  (connections)
  llwbr CONWY route  

Llandudno - Llandudno Junction -\- Glan Conwy -/- Llanrwst - Betws-y-Coed (for Sherpa network)
\                       /         
\- Conwy - Trefriw -/             

Sundays - 8th January to 9th April 2017
  Click here for Sundays and Public Holidays from 14th April 2017 until further notice
REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECT (via Black Cat) SUNDAY MORNING CONNECTION
FROM COLWYN BAY FOR A DAY OUT IN SNOWDONIA
IF YOU ARE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MISS THE CONNECTION
(your webmaster had had that expreience twice last year)
IT IS A VERY LONG WAIT FOR THE NEXT SERVICE TO BETWS-Y-COED
(as at this time of year there is NO alternative slightly later train conmnection)
If this causes you "inconvenience" --- contact Conwy CC
and ask them to start the 1000 Sunday "X19" from Llandudno 5 or 10 minutes later - as is the case on weekdays
               
 
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Ffestiniog
Railway
Arriva
Wales
Johns
Arriva
Arriva
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Johns
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Johns
 
19
  51   12
19
  12   12
13
X19
train
train
1
  11   12   12
13
19
  12
13
X19
1
13
19
13
X19
1
    Prestatyn
-
0650
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
no
later
train
alter
-native
-
0931
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1345
-
1445
-
-
    Rhyl
-
0705 0710
-
0830* 0910*
-
-
-
-
0950 1010* 1050*
-
-
1150*
-
-
-
|
-
|
-
-
    Colwyn Bay
-
-
0755
-
0915 0955
1005
-
-
-
-
1055 1135
1142
-
1235
1242
-
-
1444
-
1544
-
-
Llandudno Palladium Corner
-
-
0827
09.00
0947
>>>>>>>>>>>|>>>
10.00
-
-
-
1127
-
|
11.50
-
|
13.20
-
|
15.00
|
16.20
-
Llandudno station
-
-
-
|
-
-
|
***
-
-
-
-
-
|
|
-
|
***
-
|
|
|
***
-
Llandudno Junction
-
-
-
09.16
-
-
|
10.16
-
-
-
-
-
1155
12.06
-
1255
13.36
-
1457
15.16
1557
16.36
-
(1018)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Black Cat roundabout
-
-
-
|
-
-
1014 $
10.19 $
-
in the
winter
-
-
-
-
-
|
-
-
13.39
-
-
|
-
16.39
-
    Conwy Station
-
-
-
09.20
-
-
-
|
-
-
-
-
-
-
12.10
-
-
|
-
-
15.20
-
|
-
Llanrwst
08.20
-
-
10.05
-
-
-
10.42
-
-
-
-
-
-
12.45
-
-
14.02
-
-
16.05
-
17.02
-
Betws-y-Coed
08.29
-
-
10.15
-
-
-
10.52
-
-
-
-
-
-
12.55
-
-
14.12
-
-
16.15
-
17.12
-
    Note - the first Llanberis Snowdon Sherpa departs Betws-y-Coed at 09.10 and the last at 17.40    
* - alternatively catch an earlier "12" (every 20 minutes) and stop off for a tea or coffee at Colwyn Bay or Llandudno    
    Sherpa departs for Pen-y-Pass
    and Llanberis
09.10  11.10  13.10  15.48  17.40  -  
    Sherpa departs for Beddgelert
    via Nant Gwynant
    (Watkin Path)
0910 
change at 
Pen-y-Pass 
1310 
change at 
Pen-y-Pass 
1548 
change at 
Pen-y-Pass 
-   -  
  Sherpa departs for Bangor
  via Llyn Ogwen (Tryfan)
no Ogwen Valley "S6" Sherpa journeys in the winter   -  
   Dolwyddelan
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
11.02
Ffestiniog
Railway
-
Johns
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
14.22
Johns
-
-
-
17.22
Johns
   Blaenau Ffestiniog
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
11.17
1135#
-
1200
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
14.37
1610
-
-
-
17.37
1755
      Porthmadog
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1245
-
1228
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1638
-
-
-
-
1823
BEWARE  $ - In the event of the Arriva "13" running slightly late from Colwyn Bay,  DO NOT RELY ON LLEW JONES WAITING    
(if necessary remain on the "13" to Llandudno Junction station and catch the later 1206 "19" bus via the west side of the valley    
Alternatively catch the MUCH earlier "12" and travel the longer way via Llandudno    
*** - despite the outward Sunday "X19" journeys sill being shown in some official publications to operate via the Railway Station    
personal observaion shows some journeys are now continuing direct along Mostyn Streret via North West Gardens and not calling at the station    
If you are planning to be picked up there,  you are advised to confirm direct with the operator first    
# - The FfRly does NOT run every day outside the peak-summer period, nor does every train run when the railway is open    
latest train times/dates should be confirmed from the official FfRly website    
 latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Conwy CC website  and any subsequent amendments thereto 
  llwbr CONWY route  
Snowdon Sherpa  (connections)
  llwbr CONWY route  

Betws-y-Coed (from Sherpa network) - Llanrwst -\- Glan Conwy -/- Llandudno Junction - Llandudno
          \                       /

               \- Trefriw - Conwy -/

Sundays - 8th January to 9th April 2017
  Click here for Sundays and Public Holidays from 14th April 2017 until further notice
                 
 
Llew
Jones
Llew
Jones
Ffestiniog
Railway
Johns
Llew
Jones
Llew
Jones
Johns
Ffestiniog
Railway
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Arriva
Ffestiniog
Railway
Johns
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
Arriva
Llew
Jones
Arriva
 
19
19
train
1
X19
19
1
train
X19
13
19
13
12
11 
train
1
X19
12
35 
19
12
11 
19
12
      Porthmadog
-
-
1005#
1120
-
-
1330
1335#
-
-
-
-
-
-
1545#
1640
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
   Blaenau Ffestiniog
-
-
1120
1150
12.00
-
1358
1445
15.00
-
-
-
-
-
1700
1708
17.40
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
   Dolwyddelan
-
-
-
12.15
-
-
15.15
-
-
-
-
-
-
17.55
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Sherpa arrive
-
 0847    1047  1247    1517    1712
Betws-y-Coed
08.35
10.35
-
12.25
13.35
-
15.25
-
16.20
-
-
-
-
18.05
-
-
18.35
-
-
21.50
-
Llanrwst
08.45
10.45
-
12.35
13.45
-
15.35
-
16.30
-
-
-
-
18.15
-
-
18.45
-
-
22.00
-
    Conwy station
09.24
11.24
-
|
14.24
-
|
-
17.03
-
-
-
-
|
-
-
19.24
-
-
22.33
-
Black Cat roundabout
|
|
-
12.57
|
-
15.57
-
|
-
-
-
-
18.37
-
-
|
-
-
|
-
Llandudno Junction 
09.28
11.28
-
13.00
14.28
-
16.00
1630
17.07
1730
-
-
-
18.40
-
-
1928
-
-
22.37
-
Llandudno
09.45
11.45
-
13.14
14.45
-
16.14
|
17.20
|
1741
-
-
18.54
1911
-
1940
2011
-
22.50
2310
    Colwyn Bay
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1643
-
1743
1813
-
-
-
1936
-
-
2036
-
-
2329
    Rhyl
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1858
1930
-
-
2015
2100
-
2115
2235
-
2359
    Prestatyn
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
1949
-
-
-
2115
-
-
2255
-
-
# - The FfRly does NOT run every day outside the peak-summer period, nor does every train run when the railway is open
latest train times/dates should be confirmed from the official FfRly website
  latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites  and any subsequent amendments thereto  

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Bangor - Snowdonia   (via Llanberis)
Barmouth - Snowdonia   (via Porthmadog)
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed - Llandudno   (connections)
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Porthmadog
Caernarfon/Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Porthmadog
Caernarfon (WHRly) - Beddgelert - Llandudno
Caernarfon (WHRly) - Beddgelert - Porthmadog
Corwen - Llanrwst - Llandudno
Llanberis Pass   (Park and Ride)
Llanberis - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Llanberis - Beddgelert - Caernarfon/Porthmadog
Llandudno/Colwyn Bay - Betws-y-Coed   (connections)
Llandudno - Beddgelert - Caernarfon (WHRly)
Llandudno - Llanrwst - Corwen
Llandudno - Snowdonia (via Betws-y-Coed)
Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Caernarfon
Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Caernarfon (WHRly)
Porthmadog/Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Porthmadog - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Pwllheli - Snowdonia   (via Porthmadog)
Snowdonia - Bangor (via Llanberis) 
Snowdonia - Barmouth   (via Porthmadog)
 Snowdonia - Llandudno (via Betws-y-Coed or Caernarfon) 
Snowdonia - Pwllheli   (via Porthmadog)
Climb Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)
Ride Round Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)

Suggested weekday trips from Barmouth
Suggested weekday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested weekday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested weekday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested weekday trips from Conwy
Suggested weekday trips from Corwen
Suggested weekday trips from Llanberis
Suggested weekday trips from Llandudno
Suggested weekday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested weekday trips from Porthmadog

Suggested Sunday trips from Barmouth
Suggested Sunday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested Sunday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested Sunday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested Sunday trips from Conwy
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanberis
Suggested Sunday trips from Llandudno
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested Sunday trips from Porthmadog
Suggested Sunday trips from Pwllheli

Suggested weekday trips from
Suggested Sunday trips from
North Wales Coast Railway stations
(via Betws-y-Coed)

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