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Snowdon Sherpa Bus Timetables
This is an unofficial website
To contact the WEBMASTER please e-mail here
please also do so if you spot any error - so it can be quickly corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website !
Whilst this website is kept up-to-date with all alterations advised to the webmaster..........
..........many Councils/Operators have been making major short notice mid-timetable changes to their services over the last few months
You are STRONGLY advised to confirm any travel plans from the operator concerned before setting out for Snowdonia.
To assist - a list of these can be found below along with notes of any 'known' errors to help avoid you being "caught out"
Click on any logo to go to that website..........

on the official


No printed copies




































    Their website has been updated to coincide with the new Sherpa network and the winter timetables which commenced on Monday 7th November 2022
    There is now an increased two-hourly winter s "S1" service between Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon
(which now incorporates the former local "88" service between Llanberis and Caernarfon) on both weekdays and Sundays
    In addition the basically hourly former local "85" service between Bangor and Llanberis has been re-branded as the Sherpa "S2" service - with most journeys extended to/from Pen-y-Pass
(this replaces their former Summer Weekend only "S6" Sherpa service to Pen-y-Pass via the Ogwen valley) which is partially replaced by the daily "T10" TrawsCymru service via the Ogwen pass.....
.....details of the alternative new connections at Capel Curig can be found here
    The level of service on the new "S3" Sherpa service has increased between Beddgelert and Caernarfon
(with most journeys extended to either Llanrug or Dinorwig) replacing part of the former local "S4" and "83" services
    Also the service on both the former "S97" and part "S4" services become the re-branded "S4 Sherpa from Pen-y-Pass to Porthmadog and the number of journeys increased
(with much improved "10 "minute" connections off the "S1" from both Betws-y-Coed and Llanberis)

  website

BEWARE
    Many bus stop displays throughout the Gwynedd CC area had NOT been updated to reflect the latest position when they were personally checked on Saturday 5th November
(especially very late changes to some connecting journeys )
    It is "hoped" that the Council will rectify that shortly - MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION YOU CHECK AT ANY BUS TOP DISPLAY AGREES WITH THE COMMENTS IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN OF THIS PAGE (otherwise the information at that particular stop should be regarded as "STILL TO BE UPDATED" !)


























on the official


No printed copies



























































BEWARE
   Virtually ALL bus departure sheet displays throughout the Counwy CC area no longer shown the actual departure times
- they simply advise to to ring the helpline
    - SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALREADY CONFIRMED THE TIMES OF ALL YOUR PROPOSED JOUENEYS AS WELL AS ANY LATER 'BACK-UPS' IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A MOBILE PHONE WITH YOU or END UP IN ONE OF THE MANY PHONE SIGNAL "BLIND SPOTS" throught the more mountainous parts of Snowdonia !!!
    The one major exception is Betws-y-Coed where there is now an electronic departure display - primarily as it it now also a 'TrawsCymru' interchange stop !
    Unfortunately that only shows departures for the "next hour" so unlike some other Sherpa stops there is no longer a comprehensive display to allow you to 'plan ahead' or probably FAR MORE IMPORTANT 'how to get back'

    The actual electronic display has been "OUT OF ACTION" for longer periods than it has worked
(personally chcked by your webmaster on numerous occasions during 2022) so unless you have a suitable phone to ring up for details - make sure you have planned your whole day our BEFORE you set off
    Please note when it does work,  it is NOT "real time" so one minute after the booked departure any journey shown simply "falls off the world" irrespective of what is actually happening on the day !!!
     BEWARE
    All Bus Stop displays in the Capel Curig area are STILL showing the 'out of date' Winter Timetable times
    *** As all the Sherpa services were completely revised in April 2022,  this means NONE of the times are correct
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!
    No wonder so many people are having to use their cars,  then being forced to park illegally along the roads of the bus routes through the area when the council fail to show the correct information !!!
    Click here to find "up-to-date" details of the "S1" Sherpa journeys from Capel Curig to Snowdonia and here for the "T10" Traws-Cymru journeys to Llyn Ogwen (for Tryfan)

  website

SHERPA NETWORK
    Their website NO LONGER provides any timetables and is now just a list of "links" to other websites
    In the case of the Sherpas, it simply goes to a page on the Gwynedd CC website displaying an electronic version of the printed leaflet (complete with the errors listed under the Gwynfor entry)

CONNECIONS (or rather LACK thereof) AT BETWS-Y-COED
    


ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.....!
    Conwy CC - whose job is to co-ordinare bus services in the area have agreed to the advancing of the hourly "S1" Sherpa departures by five minutes
(possibly by default as part of the new "Snowdon Sherpa" package rather than design) thus severing MOST connection from Llandudno
    To be fair the mid-morning Conwy Valley train AND the local bus service along the west side of the Conwy Valley have been reinstated from 26th September 2022 by retarding that journey
(off-pattern) to 1106 weekdays and 1108 Sundays
    - check here to see which journeys do connect AND MORE IMPRORTANT THOSE THAT STILL NO LONGER DO,   so you do not end up wasting a day !!!
    If this causes you any inconvenience contact the CHAIRMAN of Conwy CC PERSONALLY and ask him to do something about it - IF ENOUGH OF YOU KEEP PESTERING HIM,  SOMETHING MIGHT ACTUALLY BE DONE

     BEWARE
    The last direct northbound bus of the day back to Llandudno departs VERY EARLY at 1715
    This is EXACTLY the same time as the 1623 "T10" TrawsCymru journey from Bangor via Llyn Ogwen
(for Tryfan) arrives and this "very silly" situation has now applied for OVER 12 MONTHS including two timetable changes !
    All it needs is the Council
(with their Transport co-ordinating "hat" on ) to INSIST the last northbound "T19" of the day departs five minutes later at 1720 so a connection appears on the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"
    No wonder there are so many cars being forced to park illegally along the main "A5" road through the Ogwen Valley when the council does NOT provide a reliable convienient "public transport" alternative for people living in or staying at locations within the Conwy CC area !!!









alternatively try 


No printed copies 

phone:
0800 464 00 00
(between 0700
and 2000 only)














PLEASE NOTE
    Their "Journey Planner" normally requires minimum of five minutes for a connection at any location - this also applies when there is a 'through journey' - often the case on the alternative 'through' journeys at Bangor when the route number changes en-route


    Unfotunately in these cases they automatically advise you to travel an earlier journey and to hang around - sometimes for hours - for the next one !!! (althouigh "some" - but not all - options have since been manually updated)


   "the" official public transport website
IMPORTANT
    The following is included on their website

    04/04/2022 - When accessing your public transport information, please:
  Double check our ‘Short Notice Service Updates’ page for timetable changes.












or the official 


phone:
01248 722 694



Unlike some other
operators in the area,
they do not produce
their own printed copies

However as a one-off,
TfW has produced a bi-lingual coloured leaflet for 2022 to identify the original planned changes

The are several printing errors - especially on the map and since its production many ADVERTISED through Sherpa journeys now require a change of bus en-route, 
so
listen carefully to any announcements by the driver on the day
or you may end up at the wrong location !










    Gwynfor have removed all timetables from their website - instead it now gives a "link" to the Gwynedd CC website for their latest 'official' information
    Their website has been updated to coincide with the new Sherpa network and timetables which commenced on Saturday 9th April 2022
    There is now a much increased summer "S1" service between Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon
(which now incorporates the former local "88" service between Llanberis and Caernarfon) on both weekdays and Sundays
    In addition the basically hourly former local "85" service between Bangor and Llanberis has been re-branded as the Sherpa "S2" service - with most journeys extended to/from Pen-y-Pass
(this replaces their former Summer Weekend only "S6" Sherpa service to Pen-y-Pass via the Ogwen valley) which is partially replaced by the daily "T10" TrawsCymru service via the Ogwen pass.....
.....details of the alternative new connections at Capel Curig can be found here
    The level of service on the new "S3" Sherpa service has increased between Beddgelert and Caernarfon
(with most journeys extended to either Llanrug or Dinorwig) replacing part of the former local "S4" and "83" services
    Also the service on both the former "S97" and part "S4" services become the re-branded "S4 Sherpa from Pen-y-Pass to Porthmadog and the number of journeys increased
(with much improved "10 "minute" connections off the "S1" from both Betws-y-Coed and Caernarfon/Llanberis)

website

    The summer 11.04 "S1" Sherpa journey from Betws-y-Coed to Caernarfon has now been retarded off-pattern to 11.06 (Mondays to Saturdays) and 11.08 (Sundays) to connect off the mid-morning TfW train and the Llew Jones "19" bus from Llandudno and these are no recognised as connections by the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"
    Unfortunately there are still some later arrivals which "just" miss the Sherpas

    To be fair to Gwynfor Coaches,  this very "silly" situtation is because Transport for Wales have dictated that the Sherpa buses are contracted to operate at the times specified by them
    They (TfW) seem to have completely ignored the Conwy Valley train connections even though they also specify AND operate those too !!!!!
    If this causes you inconvenience or addition expense,  COMPLAIN to Transport for Wales at Cardiff - not the poor operator who is only acting as instructed by the transport department of the Welsh Government


PLEASE NOTE
Some 'day-to-day' information can be found here 

















or the official 



The "twice-yearly" printed copies were understandably suspended during the Covid pandemic
but TfW appear to have conveniently "forgotten" to print any since that was officially over  !
















    The former Arriva Wales booklets for the North Wales and Cambrian Coasts have simply been reprinted with a new cover
    To find a "Transport for Wales" journey you must look for a train still showing AW (for Arriva Wales  !)
    - surprisingly this is still the case with the revised timetables !!!
    Alternatively use their own 'journey planner' to confirm times providing you already know when and where you want to go !!!


  train website
    All local train services throughout Wales are currently operated
by "Transport for Wales"
    - this includes the connecting Conwy Valley line and
the Cambrian Coast line
    In addition,  a limited number of InterCity services between
North Wales and London continue to be operated by Avanti

UPDATE
    Initially There were are no major changes to the times previously advertised to commence in December 2019
    However to give the 'appearance' of "speeding up" the trains along the North Wales Coast,  several journeys have had important intermediate stops removed - much to the annoyance of the locals who previously used them
.......... an "own goal" is probably the politest way to describe what they have done !!!!!

    In consequence most connections between the North Wales Resort stations and the Conwy Valley Line (and v.v.) have increased CONSIDERABLY - clearly no-one at the Cardiff  HQ 'appears' to care about this totally unnecessary inconvenience

or the official 





No printed copies 












    This company - part of the transport department of the Welsh Government - operate a network of long distance coach journeys across the whole of Wales including the "T19" route which provides connections into the Sherpa from Llandudno and the "T2" route providing the same function from Aberystwyth and Dolgellau,  also Bangor and Caernarfon




  website

TRAWS-CYMRU OPERATORS
    This company has sub-contracted.....
    Lloyds Coaches to operate the "T2" Sherpa connections at Porthmadog and Caernarfon
    (NOTE several detailed changes from Monday 7th November including CANCELLATIOB of the 'tea-time' journey back from Porthmadog to Dolgellau)
    also Llew Jones to operate the "T19" Sherpa connections at Betws-y-Coed on their behalf

    BEWARE the last (very early) Northbound journey back to Llandudno STILL departs at 17.15 - EXACTLY the same time as their "T10" is due to arrive from Llyn Ogwen (Tryfan) AND IS DOES NOT WAIT when the "T10" is running late

or the official 


phone:
01492 640 320











STOP PRESS
    Llew Jones has announced that all their "T19" journeys will be WITHDRAWN
after Saturday 11th February 2023

Click here for the likely effect on the Conway Valley connecting journeys
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Please note - the formal announcemnet by the company is only on their 'Facebook Page' (as well as a notice on their "T10" bus) but so far and thier website has NOT been updated - nor has the information reached any other official website

  website

    This company operates the weekday and Sunday "19"
(and "T19" until Saturday 11th February) connecting journeys along the Conwy Valley from and back to Llandudno
    In addition they operate the Sunday "link" between Blaenau Ffestiniog and Porthmadog - an 'alternative' to the now VERY LIMITED Sunday Sherpa "S4" journeys which also require an hour's wait at Beddgelert
    Note specially the LAST direct return weekday journeys back to Llandudno will from Monday 13th February become Betws-y-Coed depart at 1435 on Mondays to Thursdays or 1525 on Fridays and Saturdays (via the west side of the Conwy valley) --- there will be NO LONGER be any journeys along the east side of the valley


Some 'day-to-day' information can also be found here 

or the official 




























 (new link - with extra information(


  Click on map to enlarge




  website
    A weekdays only Demand Response - "flexi service" operated by Alpine Travel has been introduced in the 'greater' Llanrwst-Betws-y-Coed area  (see map on the left for details of the area)

    Remember you MUST prebook through "flecsi" stating when and where you want to travel - if you plan to connect into or out of a Sherpa (or any other bus/train) journey,  make sure you clearly say so when you "book"

    This is particularly important if you want to use it to "link" with the "S1" Sherpa where Llew Jones no longer provides a suitable timetabled journey between Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed

















or the official 







printed copies sometimes
available on the bus immediately
after any major change


  website
    This company previously operated the Sunday "S97" Sherpas

but now only operate some connecting journeys to/from Snowdonia via Llandudno/Llandudno Junction,  Conwy,  Bangor or Caernarfon



or the official 


No longer any printed copies












The company has also taken over the the
"3B" connecting service between
Blaenau Ffestiniog and Porthmadog










  website
    This company operates connecting journeys from Caernarfon,  Barmouth,  Harlech,  Dolgellau and Blaenau Ffestiniog also the local "99" journeys from Morfa Bychan
    Unfortunately they still INSIST on their ONLY mid-morning "35" journey to Dolgellau from Blaenau Ffestiniog departing at 1130 - JUST AS or slightly BEFORE the ONLY mid-morning Conwy Valley Line train arrives !!!
    On behalf of visitors to this website,  your webmaster did ask them to consider re-timing the bus slightly later,   but a somewhat "unhelpful" reply from their Bethan Jones completely avoided answering the point


PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

or the official 










phone:
01248 600 098






        IGNORE their "timetables" link which currently goes to a partially OUT OF DATE external website which also erroneously "suggests" they operate many routes (currently covered by different operators)
PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

or the official 







No printed copies 


  website
  although this company no longer operates Sunday connecting timetabled services from Blaenau Ffestiniog and Caernarfon - it still operates the weekday local service in Blaenau Ffestiniog

 

their former website is no longer
active


  although this company no longer operates connecting
timetabled services from Caernarfon
- it still operates private hire coaches and school buses in the area

PLEASE NOTE
  Some day-to-day information can now also be found here

 
yet another official
website giving
incorrect information !
  the links on this website are all out of date
  in addition the "S6" Sherpa no longer serves Bangor or Betws-y-Coed


.....but do check ANY of the above official websites have been fully updated,
as some are considerably old and (at least partially) out-of-date !!!!
Known errors in official publications are included above
(these 'warning' are there to try to help avoid you being "caught out")



Please remember all official publications were only correct at the time
of going to press, so make sure you also have any relevant amendment leaflets/notices
which may appear as the season progresses

[ If I am advised of any, this website WILL be updated accordingly ]


If you come across any changes not reflected here or you spot any error (or find any broken link)
please e-mail the webmaster so it can be corrected for the benefit of other visitors to this website - thank you !



This website attempts to show what services are currently available
along with those planned for future periods as soon as the information has been announced

In particular it highlights known errors in official publications
in order the help avoid visitors being "caught out" !

It contains composite timetables of connecting services on a cross-Snowdonia route basis
including where a change of bus is necessary --- hopefully it will help you plan your days out

It also includes details of some suggested "trips round Snowdonia - without your car"
including the ability to stop-off en-route - sometimes at more than one location
- then join a later service to continue your trip out
These are shown from both locations within Snowdonia itself
as well as some of which commence on the North Wales and Cambrian Coast resorts
using connecting buses or trains (thus enabling you to leave the car behind and avoid paying any car parking fees !!!)



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Suggested Sherpa Trips
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Bangor - Snowdonia  (via Llanberis)
Barmouth - Snowdonia  (via Porthmadog)
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed
Bethesda - Capel Curig - Llanberis
Betws-y-Coed - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Llanberis - Caernarfon
Betws-y-Coed - Llandudno  (connections)
Betws-y-Coed - Pen-y-Pass - Porthmadog
Caernarfon - Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Caernarfon/Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Porthmadog
Llanberis Pass --- Park and Ride
Llanberis - Capel Curig - Bethesda
Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Llanberis - Beddgelert - Caernarfon/Porthmadog
Llandudno/Colwyn Bay - Betws-y-Coed  (connections)
Llandudno - Snowdonia  (via Betws-y-Coed)
Porthmadog - Beddgelert - Caernarfon
Porthmadog/Caernarfon - Beddgelert - Llanberis
Porthmadog - Pen-y-Pass - Betws-y-Coed
Pwllheli - Snowdonia  (via Porthmadog)
Snowdonia - Bangor  (via Llanberis) 
Snowdonia - Barmouth  (via Porthmadog)
 Snowdonia - Llandudno  (via Betws-y-Coed or Caernarfon) 
Snowdonia - Pwllheli  (via Porthmadog)
Climb Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)
Ride Round Snowdon - with the Sherpas   (summary)

Suggested weekday trips from Barmouth
Suggested weekday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested weekday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested weekday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested weekday trips from Conwy
Suggested weekday trips from Llanberis
Suggested weekday trips from Llandudno
Suggested weekday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested weekday trips from Porthmadog

Suggested Sunday trips from Barmouth
Suggested Sunday trips from Beddgelert
Suggested Sunday trips from Betws-y-Coed
Suggested Sunday trips from Caernarfon
Suggested Sunday trips from Conwy
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanberis
Suggested Sunday trips from Llandudno
Suggested Sunday trips from Llanrwst
Suggested Sunday trips from Porthmadog

Suggested weekday trips from
Suggested Sunday trips from
North Wales Coast Railway stations
(via Betws-y-Coed)

Later non-Sherpa weekday journeys from......
Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Beddgelert area to Llanberis
Porthmadog area to Llanberis
Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
Later non-Sherpa Sunday journeys from......
Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley
Beddgelert area to Llanberis
Porthmadog area to Llanberis
Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
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