IMPORTANT     For the first time in two decades,  the summer timetable finishes late-September (rather than the start of November after the local School Half-Term October holiday period)     However the "S1" from Betws-y-Coed to Llanberis and Caernarfon is basically the same for the autumn (until 6th November) with minor changes to some times BUT there are major changes to connections off the "S1"     NOTE SPECIALLY - the last departure from Betws-y-Coed with a DIRECT "S4" connection to Beddgelert (together with a return journey the same day) has been ADVANCED to 0905 - although there are other connections via Caernarfon into the "S3" Sherpa     BEWARE - as the official information only appeared very late on the Gwynedd CC website (21st September - only 5 days before the start) - any page on this website dated before 21st September 2022 should be regarded as "still to be updated"

from the North Wales coast to the mountains of Snowdonia Llew Jones "19" and "T19"       Llandudno--Betws-y-Coed (connetions)   Betws-y-Coed--Pen-y-Pass--Llanberis   Gwynfor 'all-year-round' "S1" Sherpa       Snowdon Sherpa Bus Timetables unofficial website Llandudno Llanrwst Betws-y-Coed (for Snowdonia) Pen-y-Pass Beddgelert       Llanberis Porthmadog       Caernarfon    Gwynfor 'all-year-round "S4" Sherpa  Pen-y-Pass--Beddgelert--Caernarfon  Pen-y-Pass--Beddgelert--Porthmadog    Gwynfor 'all-year-round' "S97" Sherpa

Weekdays   Sundays and Public Holidays

B E W A R E ....................... !!! Car Parking in Snowdonia is very limited and can be expensive if a space can be found The alternative is to leave your car behind and use the Snowdon Sherpa Bus network     REMEMBER..........     Due to so many last-minute changes to the various services in the area,  unfortunately many official websites (including the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner") continue to show journeys which have either been "CHANGED" or sometimes even "WITHDRAWN"     Where known,  these are also included below as a warning - to help avoid you being caught out !!!     Please bookmark and revisit nearer the time to check if there have been any further known changes since your last visit to this page     Journeys shown on this website with a "strike through" line are still operating,  BUT it is NO LONGER possible to get a (bus) connection back to the start location of the page - eg  1234      Throughout Snowdonia there are unfortunately numerous cases of "sub-standard" connections which are NOT recognised by the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner" (as they are less than 5 minutes) - eg 11.01 11.00 or 17.15 17.15     Although this website strongly adviises you NOT to 'chance' them.......... ..........they are included to draw your attention to the fact that if everything is 'spot on time' and you are "very quick" - it can sometimes get you to your destination considerably earlier This "unofficial" website attempts to show what is available..... and to encourage greater use of the network also includes some suggested "trips round Snowdonia - without your car"

D R A F T

llwbr CONWY route	Snowdon Sherpa		SNOWDONIA
Llyn Ogwen                                                 | Llandudno -\-- Black Cat --/- Llanrwst - Betws-y-Coed - Capel Curig - Pen-y-Pass --- Llanberis               \                    /                                   :                      |                        |                      |                     \--Conwy--/                                     :                  Llyn Ogwen           Beddgelert...Rhyd Ddu...Caernarfon                                                                       :                        |                      |                      :                                                                       :.........................................Porthmadog.................:
Mondays to Saturdays - 26th September 2022  until further notice NO service on Christmas Day,  Boxing Day or New Year's Day
see VERY important note above ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE TIMES OF THE LAST REVISED RETURN JOURNEYS BEFORE YOU SET OUT If in ANY doubt,  confirm direct with the operators concerned before setting out
Click here for Sundays and Public Holidays
M-F Sat               M-F Sat       Llew Jones   Llew Jones Llew Jones T for Wales T for Wales   Llew Jones Llew Jones     Llew Jones T for Wales T for Wales Llew Jones 19   T19 19 train train   19 T19     19 train train T19 Llandudno 07.45 - 09.05 09.45 10.10 10.19 - 11.00 11.50 - - 13.00 13.22 13.17 14.45 Llandudno Llandudno Junction 07.58 - 09.22 10.00 10.32 10.31 - 11.15 12.08 - - 13.15 13.34 13.29 15.02 Llandudno Junction Black Cat roundabout | - 09.25 | | | - | 12.11 - - | | | 15.05 Black Cat roundabout Llanrwst 08.40 - 09.45 10.50 10.55 10.54 - 11.55 12.40 - - 13.55 13.58 13.52 15.30 Llanrwst Betws-y-Coed 08.50 - 09.55 11.00 11.01 11.00 - 12.05 12.50 - - 14.05 14.04 13.58 15.40 % Betws-y-Coed   Trwws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Trwws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Trwws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor   T10 S1 S4 # S3 S1 T10 S1 S4 # S3 S3-S4 S1 T10 S1 S4 # S3 S1 S1 S4 # S3 S1 Betws-y-Coed 09.01 09.05 - - 10.05 11.01 11.06 - - - 12.05 13.01 13.05 - - 14.05 15.05 - - 16.05 Betws-y-Coed Capel Curig 09.13 09.17 - - 10.17 11.13 11.18 - - - 12.17 13.13 13.16 - - 14.16 15.16 - - 16.16 Capel Curig    Llyn Ogwen (T) 09.21 | - - | 11.21 | - - - | 13.21 | - - | | - - |    Llyn Ogwen (T) Pen-y-Pass (S) - 09.30 09.35 - 10.30 - 11.30 no S4 Sherpa in the winter - - 12.30 - 13.30 no S4 Sherpa in the winter - 14.30 15.30 no S4 Sherpa in the winter - 16.30 Pen-y-Pass (S)   Nant Gwynant (S) - | 09.46 - | - | - - | - | - | | - |   Nant Gwynant (S) Llanberis - 09.50 | - 10.50 - 11.50 - - 12.50 - 13.50 - 14.50 15.50 - 16.50 Llanberis Caernarfon - 10.23 | - 11.23 - 12.23 >>>>>>>> 1318 13.23 - 14.23 - 15.23 16.23 - 17.23 Caernarfon   Beddgelert - - 09.57 1002 - - - no S3 Sherpa in the winter 1400 - - - no S3 Sherpa in the winter - - no S3 Sherpa in the winter -   Beddgelert     Rhyd Ddu Snowdon - - | 1010 - - - | - - - - - -     Rhyd Ddu   Pont Aberglaslyn - - 10.04 - - - - - 1404 - - - - - - - -    Pont Aberglaslyn   Porthmadog - - 10.25 - - - - - 1425 - - - - - - - -   Porthmadog 09.05 - Sherpa journey     # - this "S4" Sherpa is advertised to work through from Pen-y-Pass to Porthmadog via Beddgelert - the indicator on the front of the bus may show "Beddgelert" or "Porthmadog"     (sometimes changing en-route) - in all cases there is always only ONE bus so make sure you are not left behind !!!       11.01 - TrawsCymru "T10" or "T19" journey     0745 - other connecting bus journey       % - arrives five minutes later on local (Llanrwst) School Days       M-F - Mondays to Fridays only       Sat - Saturdays only       latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites and any subsequent amendments thereto

SNOWDONIA	Snowdon Sherpa		llwbr CONWY route
Porthmadog..........................................Caernarfon........................ alternative return route.........................................                                                              \       /                                                                                  \                                                Caernarfon........Beddgelert           Bethesda                                                              |                                                                 |                 |                     |                                                                 |                                                             |          Nant Gwynant         Llyn Ogwen                                                             |                                                             |                 |                    |                                                                   \                                                              Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed - Llanrwst -\- Conwy -/- Llandudno Junction - Llandudno                                                      \              /                                                     Glan Conwy
Mondays to Saturdays - 26th September 2022  until further notice NO service on Christmas Day,  Boxing Day or New Year's Day
see VERY important note above
Click here for Sundays and Public Holidays
later summer Sherpa from from Porthmadog to Pen-y-Pass   Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws -Cymru T-Cymru -Arriva Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws-Cymru -Arriva S1 T10 S3 S4 # S1 S1 T10 T10-5 S1 S3 S4 # S3 S1 T10-5     Porthmadog - - - 14.30 - - - - - - no S4 Sherpa in the winter - - -     Porthmadog     Pont Aberglaslyn - - - 14.51 - - - - - - - - -   Pont Aberglaslyn       Rhyd Ddu - - 1441 | - - - - - no S3 Sherpa in the winter - - -       Rhyd Ddu   Beddgelert - - 1453 14.58 - - - - - 1602 $ - -   Beddgelert Caernarfon 13.35 - - | 14.35 15.35 - - 16.35 - 1638 $ 17.35 - Caernarfon   Nant Gwynant Watkin | - - 15.03 | | - - | - - | -   Nant Gwynant Watkin Llanberis Joe Brown 14.02 - - | 15.02 16.02 - - 17.02 - - 18.02 - Llanberis Joe Brown Llanberis Interchange 14.10 - - | 15.10 16.10 - - 17.10 - - 18.10 - Llanberis Interchange Pen-y-Pass 14.30 - - 15.20 15.30 16.30 - - 17.30 - - 18.30 - Pen-y-Pass    Llyn Ogwen | 14.53 - - | | 16.53 - | - - - | -    Llyn Ogwen Capel Curig 14.38 15.01 - - 15.38 16.38 17.01 1715 17.38 - - - 18.38 /|\ | | 1913 --- 1913    Capel Curig Betws-y-Coed 14.53 15.15 - - 15.53 16.53 17.15 * via Bangor arr 1746 dep 1805  17.53  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  18.53  1901 via Bangor arr 1946 dep 2005 Betws-y-Coed   T for Wales Llew Jones   Llew Jones   T for Wales   Llew Jones T for Wales     train 19   T19   train     19   train Betws-y-Coed 15.23 1525 - 17.15 * - 18.02 - 1840 bus SUSP -ENDED 20.52 Betws-y-Coed Llanrwst 15.29 1545 - 17.25 - 18.08 - 20.58 Llanrwst Llandudno Junction 15.59 1624 - 17.56 - 1849f 18.40 - 21.21 2049f Llandudno Junction Llandudno 16.15 %% - 18.10 - 1912 18.51 - 21.44 2112 Llandudno 13.35 - Sherpa journey     # - "S4" - this Sherpa works through from Porthmadog to Pen-y-Pass - the indicator on the front of the bus may show "Beddgelert" or "Pen-y-Pass" (sometimes changing en-route)     $ - runs 15 minutes later throughout on (local) School Days       %% - operates direct to Llandrillo College on Mondays to Thursdays during College Term (arrive 1640), returning via Llandudno arrive 1715     --- on other dates operates direct to Llandudno arrive 1640     * - whilst in theory it is just possible to catch the earlier 1715 "T19" journey from Betws-y-Coed     - as it is less than 5 minutes,   it is NOT recognised as a connection by the TravelineCymru "Journey Planner"..........but if everything is spot on time and you are quick,  it will get you to Llanrwst or Llandudno VERY much earlier     All it needs is the 1650 ex-Blaenau Ffestiniog to depart Betws-y-Coed slightly later (as it did until Saturday 29th August 2020)     ..........unfortunately as this IS NOW THE LAST JOURNEY OF THE DAY - it is PROBABLY THE WORST EXAMPLE     of 'FAILED' INTEGRATED TIMETABLE PLANNING IN SNOWDONIA     (if you miss it, your ONLY OPTION NOW IS TO CATCH THE 1802 TRAIN at Betws-y-Coed  (SOME TICKETS MAY NOT BE VALID) AS THE ARE NO LONGER ANY LATER CONWY VALLEY BUSES !!!!!      - if this causes you inconvenience or additional costs,  write/phone/email the operator (Llew Jones - 01492 640 320),  Conwy CC and/or TrawsCymru and ask them to retime the 1715 "T19" journey slightly later to RELIABLY connect    latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites and any subsequent amendments thereto

llwbr CONWY route	Snowdon Sherpa		SNOWDONIA
Llyn Ogwen                                                 | Llandudno -\-- Black Cat --/- Llanrwst - Betws-y-Coed - Capel Curig - Pen-y-Pass --- Llanberis               \                     /                                   :                     |                         |                       |                     \--Conwy--/                                     :                   Llyn Ogwen           Beddgelert...Rhyd Ddu...Caernarfon                                                                       :                         |                     |                       :                                                                       :.........................................Porthmadog..................:
DRAFT  Sundays - 2nd October 2022  until further notice NO service on Christmas Day,  Boxing Day or New Year's Day
P R O V I S I O N A L see VERY important note above The additional "T10" summer-dated Traws-Cymru journeys from Betws-y-Coed to Llyn Ogwen/Bangor at 0901, 1301 and 1701 are also EXPECTED to be WITHDRAW for the mid-winter period
* * * STILL TO BE FULLY UPDATED
Llew Jones   Llew Jones   Llew Jones   Llew Jones   Llew Jones     19   T19   19   T19   19     Llandudno no early Sunday connection - 09.00 - 09.45 - 12.10 - 12.45 - - Llandudno Llandudno Junction  - 09.15 - 10.00 - 12.25 - 13.00 - - Llandudno Junction      Conwy - | - 10.04 - | - 13.04 - -     Conwy Llanrwst 08.20 - 09.40 - 10.40 - 12.50 - 13.35 - - Llanrwst Betws-y-Coed 08.30 - 09.50 -            10.50 13.00 - 13.45 - - Betws-y-Coed   Traws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor | | | \|/ Llew Jones Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Gwynfor Gwynfor   T10 S2 S4 S3 S3 1S S1 T10 S1 S1 T10 S1 S4 S3 S3 S1 T10 S1 S1 Betws-y-Coed 09.01 09.05 - - - 09.50 >>>>> 10.05 11.01 11.08 12.05 13.01 13.05 - - - 14.05 15.01 15.05 16.05 Betws-y-Coed     Blaenau Ffestiniog | | - - - 10.15 1200 | | | | | | - - - | | | |     Blaenau Ffestiniog Capel Curig 09.13 09.17 - - - - | | | | | | | | | | \|/ 10.17 11.13 11.20 12.17 13.13 13.17 - - - 14.17 15.13 15.17 16.17 Capel Curig    Llyn Ogwen 09.21 | - - - - | 11.21 | | 13.21 | - - - | 15.21 | |    Llyn Ogwen Pen-y-Pass Snowdon - 09.30 09.35 - - - 10.30 - 11.30 12.30 - 13.30 no S4 Sherpa in the winter - - 14.30 - 15.30 16.30 Pen-y-Pass Snowdon   Nant Gwynant - | | | | | | \|/ 09.46 - - - | | | | | | \|/ - | | | | | | \|/ | | | | | | \|/ - | | | | | | \|/ - - | | | | | | \|/ - | | | | | | \|/ | | | | | | \|/   Nant Gwynant   Beddgelert  W H Rly - 09.57 1002 1100 - - - 1402 1500 -   Beddgelert  W H Rly   Rhyd Ddu - - 1010 | - - - - 1410 | -   Rhyd Ddu   Pont Aberglaslyn - - | 1104 - - - - | 1504 -   Pont Aberglaslyn   Porthmadog - - | 1125 - 1228 - - - | 1525 -   Porthmadog Llanberis - 09.50 - | - - - 10.50 - 11.50 12.50 - 13.50 - | - 14.50 - 15.50 16.50 Llanberis Caernarfon - 10.23 - 1137 - - - 11.23 - 12.23 13.23 - 14.23 - 1437 - 15.23 - 16.23 17.23 Caernarfon 09.05 - Sherpa journey     1002 - Sherpa connection           09.00 - TrawsCymru "T10" or "T19" journey     0950 - other connecting bus journey         1200 - alternative non-Sherpa journey       latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites and any subsequent amendments thereto

SNOWDONIA	Snowdon Sherpa		llwbr CONWY route
...................Caernarfon........................... alternative return route .................................                                                  /                                                                          \                                                  Caernarfon......Porthmadog                                                                             |                                                                   |                 |                                                                                      |                                                             |       Beddgelert         Llyn Ogwen                                                          |                                                             |                 |                      |                                                                \                                                             Llanberis - Pen-y-Pass - Capel Curig - Betws-y-Coed - Llanrwst -\- Conwy -/- Llandudno Junction - Llandudno  |                                                            \             /                                        Llyn Ogwen                                                     Glan Conwy
DRAFT  Sundays - 2nd October 2022  until further notice NO service on Christmas Day,  Boxing Day or New Year's Day
P R O V I S I O N A L see VERY important note above The additional "T10" summer-dated Traws-Cymru journeys from Llyn Ogwen at 1053, 1453 and 1853 are also EXPECTED to be WITHDRAW for the mid-winter period
* * * STILL TO BE FULLY UPDATED
last Sherpa from Porthmadog to Betws-y-Coed   alternative later journeys   Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws -Cymru T for Wales Gwynfor Lloyds Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Traws -Cymru Lloyds T for Wales Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Gwynfor Traws -Cymru Traws-Cymru -Arriva Lloyds T for Wales Llew Jones S4 S4 S1 S1 T10 train S1 1S S1 T19 T10 1S train S4 S3 S4 S1 S1 T10 T10-5 1S train   19     Porthmadog 1130 - - - - - - 1540 - - - 1640 - 1530 - - - - - - 1840 - -   Porthmadog     Blaenau Ffestiniog | - - - - 1459 - 1608 >>>>>>>>>> 16.40 - 1708 1728 | - - - - - - 1908 2020 -     Blaenau Ffestiniog   Pont Aberglaslyn | - - - - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \|/ - - - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \|/ - - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \|/ | - - - - - - - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \|/ -   Pont Aberglaslyn   Caernarfon | - 12.35 13.35 - 14.35 - 15.35 - - | 1618 - 16.35 17.35 - - - -   Caernarfon   Rhyd Ddu | - | | | \|/ | | | \|/ - | | | \|/ - | | | \|/ - - | 1641 - | | - - - -   Rhyd Ddu   Beddgelert 1155 12.58 - - - - 1555 1653 16.58 | | - - - -   Beddgelert   Nant Gwynant Watkin - 13.03 - - - - - - 17.03 | | - - - -   Nant Gwynant Watkin Llanberis Joe Brown - | 13.02 14.02 - 15.02 - 16.02 - - - - | 17.02 18.02 - - - - Llanberis Joe Brown Llanberis Interchange - | 13.10 14.10 - 15.10 - 16.10 - - - - | 17.10 18.10 - - - - Llanberis Interchange Pen-y-Pass - 13.20 13.30 14.30 - 15.30 - 16.30 - - - - 17.20 17.30 18.30 - - - - Pen-y-Pass       Llyn Ogwen - - | | 14.53 | - | 16.53 - - - - | | 18.53 - - -       Llyn Ogwen Capel Curig - - 13.38 14.38 15.01 15.38 - 16.38 17.01 - - - - 17.38 18.38 19.01 /|\ | | 1913 --- 1913    - - Capel Curig Betws-y-Coed - - 13.53 14.53 15.15 1525 15.53 >>>>>> 16.53 17.05 17.15 - 1755 - - - 17.53  18.53   19.15  1901 via Bangor arr 1946 dep 2015 >>>>>> 2047 - Betws-y-Coed     Llew Jones   | | | \|/   | | | \|/ Llew Jones   | | | \|/   Llew Jones     | | | \|/ Llew Jones     19     19       19         19   Betws-y-Coed - 14.40 - 1525 - 17.05 17.35 - 1755 - 1840 bus SUSP -ENDED - - 2047 2150 bus SUSP -ENDED Betws-y-Coed Llanrwst - 14.50 - 1531 - 17.15 17.45 - 1801 - - - 2053 Llanrwst Llandudno Junction - 15.21 - 1559 - 17.39 18.22 - 1830 - - 2102f - 2122 Llandudno Junction Llandudno - 15.35 - 1614 j - 17.55 18.35 - 1843 - - 2120 - 2135 Llandudno 12.58 - Sherpa journey     1130 - Sherpa connection           14.53 - TrawsCymru "T10" or "T19" journey     1405 - other connecting bus journey         j - change trains at Llandudno Junction railway station         f - bus "5" calls at the "flyover" stop - not the railway station       latest times should always be confirmed from the individual timetables on the official Gwynedd CC or Conwy CC websites and any subsequent amendments thereto

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	Later non-Sherpa weekday journeys from...... Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Beddgelert area to Llanberis Porthmadog area to Llanberis Llanberis area to Porthmadog area	Later non-Sherpa Sunday journeys from...... Beddgelert area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Pen-y-Pass area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Porthmadog area to Llandudno/Conwy Valley Beddgelert area to Llanberis Porthmadog area to Llanberis Llanberis area to Porthmadog area
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